question on farm exemp post

[Soundguy]

Lots of schools are also shutting down the arts. in some areas.. the only reason they have band.. is for the football teams.. which never seem to get budget cuts... Go figure.

It is more likely that that school would turn out a musician... with a real job.. than a pro athelete. I'm not saying NO pro atheletes.. I'm just saying for the money they spend.. seems like they are turning out more of other professions other than athletes.. even though the athletic budget is usually the biggest in the school... This is particularly relevant as my wife is a music teacher, and musician.

Soundguy

 

[DocHeb]

My father used to teach at a local middle school, and was the athletic director. There were state requirements for football equipment that stated it had to be replaced each three years, whether it had been used or not. With all the other expenses, he noted that for the amount of the football budget, he could run three intramural sports each season (fall, winter, spring). Guess which (football vs intramural) got cut in the end.

 

[billbill1]

I did say I was sorry for my post and I did not mean anything other than exactly the way I feel. If it was your toes I stepped on, I apologize.

 

[cowboydoc]

<font color="green"> It is more likely that that school would turn out a musician... with a real job.. than a pro athelete </font>

Being a professional athlete isn't a real job but being a professional musician is a real job? Personally I wouldn't say one or the other is any better or any worse. Being gifted as an athlete or being gifted as a musician both have value.

 

[billbill1]

agreed

 

[Junkman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="green"> It is more likely that that school would turn out a musician... with a real job.. than a pro athelete </font>

Being gifted as an athlete or being gifted as a musician both have value. )</font>

The only difference is that I have never heard of a musician getting a 30 million dollar contract to play for 4 years. I also never heard of a musician going into the stands and beating on people because a patron threw something on the stage or didn't like the music and booed them. Have you???? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Robert_in_NY]

You don't follow rock muscians then do you /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue">You don't follow rock muscians then do you </font>

Robert, that's pretty funny! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I don't follow rock muscians anymore than Junkman does, but I think you are correct...

 

[cowboydoc]

<font color="red">The only difference is that I have never heard of a musician getting a 30 million dollar contract to play for 4 years. I also never heard of a musician going into the stands and beating on people because a patron threw something on the stage or didn't like the music and booed them. Have you???? </font>

Yes you hear about them all the time. If you're going to take all the musicians together like you are lumping athletes together then yes I could name a list a mile long of drug addicts, murderers, thieves, rapists, and whatever else you want to say. And to most musicians $30 million is chump change when they're on top. Sorry but your argument doesn't hold much weight there.

BTW it's not just rock musicians either.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I know but I didn't feel like typing /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Have fun.

 

[bczoom]

Now this is funny...
I've followed this thread until I took a break. TXDon had the last post at 4:34 when I stopped.

I come back and couldn't believe my eyes, nor the fact that it was Bird of all people that started the slippery slope. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Can't do it as well as DocHeb would, but take a look back. It went to schools, sports, musicians, professional athletes, financials of such people...

Hey, at least you're not talking politics /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I noticed that too before I replied. Didn't really care though

 

[riptides]

I am curious on how states classify property as a "farm".
Is it acreage?
Is it land use?
Is it animal related?

I am doing research on information in Virginia, commonwealth of, trying to see what is best for my property.

I noticed that two horses, recreational purposes, does not make a farm.

I also noticed that land, small as five acres is classified as a farm.

I also noted that a mix of animals per acres, you can get classified as a farm.

Now I understand why the farmers, quit farming. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Anyway, what is it like in other states? What is a "farm"?

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Robert_in_NY]

It is land use here in New York. You have to show that your land is being farmed or grazed to be considered a farm. Of course there is a lot more into it depending on what NY classifies as a farm but I would imagine most states come down to having to show the land being farmed in some manner.

Depending on what type of land you have in NY it is sometimes cheaper to not have it listed as farm land. We tore out a lot of grape vineyards on our land that were overgrown, it dropped our taxes a lot as open fields are cheaper to own then vineyards.

 

[rozett]

I put a sizable chunk of my land into Tree Growth, which means that it gets taxed on the value of the timber instead of the value of the land. The state sets the timber value per acre annually based on the mix and price of harvested timber. But, the 1.5 acres of Christmas trees that I have planted have to count as farm crops, not trees. Go figure. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[OkeeDon]

<font color="blue"> "And to most musicians $30 million is chump change when they're on top." </font>

Sorry, Doc, you're talking about entertainers, not musicians. Among the people making that kind of money, I haven't seen a real musician, yet, unless Placido Domingo or Yo Yo Ma makes that much, and I don't think they do.

 

[texbaylea]

I have a radical suggestion that just may get me lynched. All professional sports teams should be taxed with the money to go to the colleges and high schools. Why should the public be taxed to operate farm clubs for the professional sports teams. Each profressional athlete should be required to rebate prorata to his college and school district from his fabulous salary. Obviously I have no use for professional sports like football, basketball, and hockey.

End rant

Vernon

 

[Chuck52]

The way I read Soundguy's comment was that a given school was likely to be able to produce more professional musicians than professional athletes, if the funding were proportionally assigned. I rather doubt he intended to imply that professional athletes did not have real jobs. Both musicians and athletes are entertainers, at least if they want to make money. Since there now seem to be professional tiddly wink players, I'm not sure Sounguys implication that jobs for musicians out number those for athletes, however.

Now, if you wanted to argue the relative merits for improved funding for science, math and engineering education as opposed to that for athletics, we could no doubt really close this discussion down in a hurry.

Chuck

 

[Junkman]

May I say this about that....... nah..... it is too political and I don't want to be the last to post to this thread. Ah.... why not..... Close the public schools and let the parents fend for themselves how the kids are going to be educated. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif To be continued.....

 

[markct]

should we start takin bets on how long it is before this thread is closed, seems to me it has even less to do with tractors and farms than the other one did, yet it seems that they are allowing it to continue, i suppose they know that if they close it we will simply start another one called "questions on questions on farm exempt post" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif or maybe we should take this over to one of the other forums where we can actualy discuss political things that affect country living