Question about trailer with steering?

RedNeckRacin · Dec 28, 2015

Well seems feasible and is feasible are two different things. The problem with the blocking idea is that the trailer has to slide back under the container to make it work right. If you watch that winch truck he let's the truck roll back under the load until it lifts up off the ground. I have seen step deck and winch truck drivers do this many hundreds of times. I don't recall ever seeing them set the brake when they hooked up to drag whatever it was on the ground. Granted we are talking skids that could weigh 110,000lbs but still. I think they work so well because you are only technically lifting half the weight until the object clears the ground, then the tail roller is holding 100 % of the items weight and the winch is merely balancing. I'm not saying it's impossible to do it with a trailer, I just don't think it's going to work that well unless you hold the front of the trailer down.

blueriver · Dec 28, 2015

Sodo said:
Rather than try to win any awards, if I had to reverse it I'd use the receiver on my front bumper.

If ya scared say ya scared !!!! Really they the HARD to back up unless you have done it alot .... then they easy to back up ... I never got an award but I can back those puppies up !!!

RedNeckRacin · Dec 28, 2015

I'm scared! Never did get very good at putting them exactly where I wanted. I never had all day to put them where they needed to be either. I usually dropped the loaded wagon off at the barn facing in, blocked the wheel, unhooked the tractor, had someone grab the tongue and nudge the fully loaded trailer in with the bucket dumped over. That was the fastest way to put the wagons in the barn within inches of the maow.

4570Man · Dec 28, 2015

Sodo said:
Rather than try to win any awards, if I had to reverse it I'd use the receiver on my front bumper. Here's what the M721 Dolly looked like at the auction yard. Complete unit, they connect together as a towable unit. They separate into two units, each one hooks onto one end of the container and it has the jacks to lift the container off the ground. Hard to imagine with all the containers for sale these are not coveted. This one went for $200 on Oct15, 2015. ALMOST wish I had the uncut version. Except then I wouldn't have a log trailer in the works, or tires for my Willys. RNR Don't you think dragging a 5,000lb container up onto a 5700lb capacity trailer, with a 12,000lb winch "seems feasible"?I already have the winch and the car trailer. I'd put blocks under the rear of the trailer so it doesn't lift the truck.

I haven't found anything that I couldn't winch on the rollback with a 12K or maybe it's a 15K winch. This includes a large steel water tank that weighs as much as the container in question. It was dead weight on skids. The forklift doesn't have very good brakes so I park it at the front of the bad and winch it up. It weighs at least 10K. I have hauled another forklift with a published curb weight of 11K. It has even worse brakes then the first so I used the same method to load it. Assuming the 12k winch can actually pull 12k I think it will work. If the 12K winch doesn't work use this one instead.

Sodo · Dec 28, 2015

I guess I'll find out if 12,000 lb winch can skid 5,000 lb container. I don't have a roller on the edge, maybe a snatch block will be req'd. Can roll it on logs once the leading edge is up a foot. I would rather not back under it if a 12,000 lb winch can drag it. Or 24,000.

I have to wait until snow is gone, April or May. There's 4 months of TbN betw now & then. No way this container can win the battle.

I wonder if a trucker will just drop the containers on a wide spot in the road, out in the woods.....if I tell him its my property (it's Weyerhauser timber company).

Mace Canute · Dec 28, 2015

Sodo said:
Rather than try to win any awards, if I had to reverse it I'd use the receiver on my front bumper.

Here's what the M721 Dolly looked like at the auction yard. Complete unit, they connect together as a towable unit. They separate into two units, each one hooks onto one end of the container and it has the jacks to lift the container off the ground. Hard to imagine with all the containers for sale these are not coveted.

This one went for $200 on Oct15, 2015. ALMOST wish I had the uncut version. Except then I wouldn't have a log trailer in the works, or tires for my Willys.

RNR Don't you think dragging a 5,000lb container up onto a 5700lb capacity trailer, with a 12,000lb winch "seems feasible"?I already have the winch and the car trailer. I'd put blocks under the rear of the trailer so it doesn't lift the truck.