</font><font color="blue" class="small">( We sell Yanmars tractors in Oregon, so far I have supplied 4 bell housings to customers because of 3 point backhoes.
The last one was to Daves tractor in California. His customer with an F18 yanmar & a backhoe you know the rest...
(Dave fixed his tractor.
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Ernie, you are right about that, and we didn't even sell the guy the hoe. We sold over 60 backhoes last year, not one of them a three-point. Each one was a sub-frame. The guy that split his F18D wanted a 3-point hoe when he bought the tractor. I wouldn't sell it to him and explained why. He ignored my advice and bought a bargain three-point hoe elsewhere and installed it himself, then called me a few weeks later and said "Dave, you can say 'I told you so', or whatever, but my tractor snapped in half through the bellhousing after I mounted a three-point hoe, can you fix it?" Of course we did, with Ernie's help on parts, but the guy got an expensive lessen driven home.
I know of a couple of Branson and Mahindra dealers that don't like the expense of stocking subframes and the different backhoes, so they buy generic three-point backhoes. Instead, I sometimes will have 20 backhoes/subframes and 40 buckets in stock to try to make sure I can properly mount a Branson (Ameriquip) or Mahindra (KMW for the 15 series and Bradco for the others) tractor. It is much easier and cheaper to have a couple of skids of three-point hoes and push these inferior products, or at least inferior mounting, off on customers. Dealers that sell these would seem to put themselves into the position of taking care of any related damage not covered by Mahindra or Branson if warranty claims are denied due to damage caused as a result of a 3-point mounted hoe.
Just a side note, you are getting a lot more than just a subframe with the 509 or 511 hoe. This is an incredible machine, really in a class by itself when compared to other CUT hoes.