Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped

   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped
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#11  
Ok for clarification pto shaft does not move when tractor off and rear pto selector in rear position. The solenoid or brake it what i fear failed as once tractor is running/on pto spins with tractor engine even though pto selector is off. Turn selector on and no response.

As far as part schematic yea you can find em but few and far between.
 

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   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped #12  
The rear PTO stopped working on the JD 2025R a few weeks back. PTO light was still on. Thought I'd sheared a shear bolt in the bush hog. Nope.

JD picked it up the end of that week and had it back to me by the end of the next week. Cost me $694, almost half that in just the PTO relay that had gone bad. One the JD, it's behind the bottom part of the instrument cover.
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped #13  
Your first picture seems to be the culprit.

Test that circuit with your PTO switch on/off and see if you have power.
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped
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#14  
Thanks ill get back after it later tonight. Of course that solenoid valve is on backorder. So im hoping i can find new holland or ls dealer that has one on shelf.

I appreciate all the valve
 
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#15  
Went out and tested few things tonight. Good news is solenoid valve clear up issue pto now comes on and shuts off with switch. The valve body was stuck.
Still have issue where pto shaft is slowly rotating whenever tractor is on Pto on rotation speeds up pto off rotating slow maybe 60rpm by my count. Could this be related to that valve sticking? Or is it what I fear it may be and the pto clutch(which i assume is what system uses as the brake) is worn and need replacement.

Still little lost with this issue wasnt expecting issues with under 200hrs and 3 year old machine. But you all have point me in right direction and I got time as no dealer can even get me in till middle of next month.
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped #16  
Went out and tested few things tonight. Good news is solenoid valve clear up issue pto now comes on and shuts off with switch. The valve body was stuck.
Still have issue where pto shaft is slowly rotating whenever tractor is on Pto on rotation speeds up pto off rotating slow maybe 60rpm by my count. Could this be related to that valve sticking? Or is it what I fear it may be and the pto clutch(which i assume is what system uses as the brake) is worn and need replacement.

Still little lost with this issue wasnt expecting issues with under 200hrs and 3 year old machine. But you all have point me in right direction and I got time as no dealer can even get me in till middle of next month.
So if the tractor is running and the PTO is off it still rotates the PTO slowly and when you turn the PTO on, It spins the PTO normally?
Sounds like viscous coupling and the brake is not engaging to hold it.

Is it strong enough to turn the PTO driven equipment when the PTO is off?

IF it isn't strong enough to spin the PTO equipment when off, I would not worry about it, this now allows you to turn the PTO shaft when the tractor is off so you can align the splines. That is the one thing I hate about mine, not being able to turn the PTO shaft when the tractor is off.
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped #17  
I'd say that the PTO solenoid valve is still sticking if the PTO won't fully shut off.

Take the part number you are looking for, put MT in front of it, and call CNH to see if they have one.
 
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#18  
Yea thats what im hoping and that is my plan once rain comes this afternoon. Make some calls and then drive for parts in the rain rather then waste a sunny day.

Thanks again for all the help dealers are no where near as helpful or timely as the memebers here.
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped
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#19  
Ok found solenoid valve 3hr drive one way but only one on a shelf at new holland dealer in tri state area. Pto works with implement. But still has constant turn like the pto is getting pressure through the block when off. With implement attach has enough power to turn implement

Would this be bad oring on solenoid valve or is it one of the other valve in block? Or is solenoid valve just not seating shut fully allowing fluid to leak by into pto?
 
   / Pto issues wont turn on was running and stopped #20  
Are you getting some stray voltage from the switch? Try unplugging the solenoid and starting the tractor, does the PTO still spin?
 

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