PowerTrac PT422 or 2422

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kcook

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Are there any Owners of PowerTrac 2422 or Pt422 out there, I would like to hear your opinion on your units with the Subaru engines. Any problems, and is it quiet? Any problems starting them in cold weather (I live in Michigan)? ANy other comments?
KCook
 
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hi,
i bought a poertrac pt-425 in aug. and have been very pleased with its abilities. i would recommend the pt-425 mainly for the kohler engine ( more service centers ) and also for the canopy ( actually a rops). i also purchased the 48" 10 cu. ft. bucket with teethe, 60" mower, post hole digger head w/ 6" auger, arm rest ($100.00 but recommend you don't) and bar tires ( $100.00 lovem and easy on the turf). this really is a great machine for homeowner/s. check there web site for landscape shows as they will bring it with them, if you pre-pay, and you save a few hundred bucks shipping. if you have any questions feel free to ask.
t
 
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t, why not the arm chair set? I was thinking of getting one. I am glad to hear the bar tires don't mess up the lawn I had not looked at them!
KCook
 
   / PowerTrac PT422 or 2422 #4  
Hi Ken,

I have a PT422 with the Subaru engine. I've only had it for about a month now. We've used it some, but not steady by any means.

As far as the engine goes, no problems (though one shouldn't expect any this early). Texastomd is correct about there being more service centers for the Kohler engine, though.

I do not like the machine's layout for service. The engine's oil filter is hard (though not impossible) to get at, as is the hydraulic filter (though again, not impossible — just more difficult than it should be). Also, there is no shutoff valve between the fuel tank and the carburetor as Subaru recommends in their engine manual. The in-line fuel filter is a small plastic housed filter like you could buy at K-mart. I don't remember exactly how the Kohler engine sits in the frame, but I suspect it has the same "problems" based on the overall design/layout of the machine.

I also don't like Power Trac's "in-house" branded filters. There is no information on a cross to more common ones. You either have to guess and experiment or stock up on theirs. I haven't priced them yet, so I don't know how bad they'll be. I just know someday I'll need one and won't have one! And then I'll have to wait to get one shipped in.

Is it quiet? In a word, NO! But then, neither was the PT425 (Kohler engine) I used when we visited Power Trac. Actually, what appears to be a whining noise from the hydraulics is more bothersome than the engine noise. Since the exhaust is behind (and to the side of) the operator, it's not as annoying as you might think. Hearing protection is advised for either engine, in any case — especially if its used for any extended time frame.

Our setup is about the same as texastomd, except for the different engine and the 6" auger. (We got the optional canopy, arm rests, and bar tires as well.) We also got both buckets (smaller digging bucket with teeth and larger soft material handling bucket), 60" finish mower, 48" "brush-hog"-type mower, and the forks.

So far we've only used the mower and brush-hog, but I hope to try out the buckets in the next week or so. Forks will probably not be used for a month or so.

As far as the mowing goes, the finish mower works as well as our old Ariens and Cub Cadets did plus it allows us to mow more than they did since we can go places the others couldn't. The brush-hog also works quite well. We've cleared out a few small areas (a few hundred square feet at a time) just to test it out, but I've got some trees to cut down to open up a bit more to get where we want to end up. Probably sometime in the next two to three weeks we plan on brush-hogging a couple of acres of open field that have been allowed to grow up over the last five years. Some of the area is a bit "soupy", so it'll be a good test.

Anyway, just wanted to chime in with my two cents worth. Hope this is of some use.

Brent
 
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Brent, is the brush Hog good for high grass only or will it do small brush as well! I am looking at the 2422 because of the higher lift 72 inchs and I can think of alot of things I can do with the backhoe! How is the forks?
KCook
 
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Did you call power-trac about the whining noise? I have a pt425 with no whining noise, usualy that is a sign of a partialy clogged hydralic filter. My tractor developed this noise and I called them, they said it is not uncommon in new tractors to have a small peice of slag clog the filter partialy and will happen the first 10 hours if it does. They were willing to talk me thru changeing the filter if I did'nt feel comfortable doing it. The tractor comes with an extra filter and hose for bleeding the pump. I thought the filter was easy to change. I changed the fuel filter to a metal one the same day I got the tractor. I thought it was weird that a machine built so heavy would have a plastic filter until I bought one for our John Deere Gator. It always took a metal filter but they have changed it to a small plastic one. I now buy after market ones. I also put a gas shut off valve on my tractor.

I am very happy with my tractor so far, I have had it for 9 months now.
 
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kcook:

I'll let you know about the brush-hog and high grass in the next week or so. Maybe as early as this weekend. As I mentioned in the earlier message, I'm getting ready to attack an area that has grown up over the last five years. Some of that is 4-5 feet tall plus there are small trees and bushes, etc.

I too would have liked a higher lift, but I've got an older Ford 1910 with bucket and backhoe. So, for most things, I'm covered now. I like the maneuverability of the Power Trac and the many options. Even just taking the backhoe off the Ford and putting on the box blade is a pain. I guess I'm just too impatient!

I haven't used the forks yet. Again, I've got some things I'll be moving in the next week or so that should give me a better idea how useful they'll be. I'll update when I've used them some.

Brent
 
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PTRich,

No, I did not call Power Trac about the whine. Thank's for the head's up. I'll probably change the filter based on your advice.

How did you add the fuel shutoff? What valve did you use? I planned on this eventually, but haven't looked into what's needed or available space, etc. No sense reinventing the wheel, so...if you have any info on what you used and how you installed it, I'd appreciate that as well.

Again, thanks for the advice.

Brent
 
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Brent
I got an inline shutoff from napa, thats also where I got my filter. I called for hydralic filters from power trac and they said they had cross numbers for after market filters but the sales man couldnt find them. If I get them I will post them.

PTRich
 
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Brent
I did a little checking with numbers on my hydrlic filter and found out who the manufacture is. It was NAPA. Napa part number 1762, I will go there and check.
 
   / PowerTrac PT422 or 2422 #11  
hi kcook,
i am not happy with the position they mount ( to low ). also for about $120.00 you can purchase an after market tractor seat with spring suspension. i hope you reconsider the pt 425 vs. the pt 422. the torque on the kohler engine, per kohler, is 39.5 lbs while the 22 hp robin, as best i can recall, is around 33 lbs? also the kohler has power bore cylinders coated with nickel for virtually lifetime cyliner life. kohler also has a lifetime warranty on the ignition modules, not advertised but call and ask them, and the smart spark module. smartspark advances or retards the timeing accordingly and don't forget the canopy. i think all pt owners will agree that the canopy is equivalent to a rops. QUESTION; has anyone wired their pt for rear lights or aux. power? if so how did you wire it? i am thinking about running a direct lead from the battery to a rocker switch or two for 12 volt power. would this harm/destroy the stator and/or rectifier? could the electrical system handle the extra load and still charge the battery?
 
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Texastom, I was looking at the 2422 because of the 7 foot lift height and the Backhoe is a nice touch. I would rather have a Kohler engine as well!
KCook
 
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PTRich,

Thanks, again, for the info! I could find no numbers on my filter. Its just a blank white canister with a "Power Trac" logo on the side. Maybe they changed between when you got yours and we got ours.

I also checked with Power Trac, but was told there is no cross-reference and that the only source for the filters was Power Trac. (The same story I got from Robin/Subaru on their filter as well. You'd think these people are making big bucks on these filters or something that they're so protective about cross-referencing or naming their source!)

I'll check the NAPA 1762 against mine. If I'm not mistaken, I think that's the same number of the filter I use on my Ford 1910. (I'm at work, so I'm going on memory here.) Wouldn't that be convenient, though? Two filters the same on two different pieces of equipment?! Naah...surely I can't be that lucky!

Anyway, thanks for the assist. I'll let you know what I find once I get to NAPA. (And pick up a shutoff valve too!)

Brent
 
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Brent,
I found the number on the bottom stamped into the metal buy the rubber gasket, let me know how you make out.
 
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PTRich,

I checked my filter after removing the shrinkwrap. It, too, has the "1762" stamped in the metal. I also went to my local NAPA store and they had to order a 1762 filter in as they had none in stock.

After finally getting a chance to look at it, it is apparent that this is not the correct filter. The "1762" stamped on the filter must be a reference for some other purpose. The NAPA 1762 filter is smaller in height and diameter, and the seal is, of course, a smaller diameter. In short, this will not work. I suspect you will find (or have already found) this out (if you've had a chance to get your hands on one).

Just FYI.

Brent
 
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texastomd
Is it correct that you have the bigger bucket with teeth? If so, how has it performed? Is there any need to purchase the smaller bucket, in your opinion?

MossRoad
 
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Brent:
I know the owner of the NAPA buy me and when I have time I will bring the filter there and try to match. One thing to think about, the PT's use motor oil for hydralic fluid, perhaps it is a common oil filter?

PTRich
 
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I don't think so... most engines run 40 to 60 psi oil pressure. What is the pressure on the hydraulic system, around 2500 psi? I've seen engine oil filters balloon at 100 psi or there abouts, maybe less. Ford had a problem with the 4.6 modular engine. They recommended 5W-30 oil and people would run 10W-40 and 20W-50 and the added viscosity was enough to balloon ( and sometimes blow) the filter. I don't know what pressure they were pushing but I'm pretty sure it wasn't 2500 psi! :)
 
   / PowerTrac PT422 or 2422 #19  
unless you plan on using the bucket to pry rocks or stumps out of the ground get the 48" and add teeth. you can weld heavy gauge steel straps to add strength for, you know it, rocks and stumps. i added bucket hooks for lifting. also added a wellsag canopy. so far, 6 months, this machine hass functioned as avertised. my only complaint would be that @ 1600 lbs the pt-425 , bucket with teeth, bar tread's and 200 lbs of operator does not provide enough traction required to fully utilize the mighty kohler 25 hp and the added torque of 4wd. lastly for all you kohler owners; i highly recommend adding a canister air breather (approx $160-180 w/filter minder), finned oil cooler (approx $120-140) and pro plugs. your kohler will run 15-30 degrees cooler.
 
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Bigger bucket sounds great. One more question. I'm 6' tall with long legs. I sat on a JD4100 and my knees hit the steeering wheel. How does the power trac fill the ergonomic bill?

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