Comparison Powershift

[normde2001]

Whops.......I was thinking of the YM2210 when I said two cylinder, sorry

Mark

We knew that you knew better, Mark.

 

[California]

I agree the three cylinder sounds pretty busy at higher rpms. But in my opinion it sounds like it was designed for that speed.

One of the first things I did when I bought the twin was get out my mechanical tachometer and verify the tractor's tachometer because my senses were telling me 'nobody designs equipment to sound this chaotic'. But it seems that back in the day, they did. This same engine was also marketed as primary power for small fishing vessels. Seems to me that a day cooped up in a boat cabin with that racket would leave one's head ringing for weeks.

 

[mus302]

One of the first things I did when I bought the twin was get out my mechanical tachometer and verify the tractor's tachometer because my senses were telling me 'nobody designs equipment to sound this chaotic'. But it seems that back in the day, they did.

Just based on my experience with my truck I know that fuel choice has a lot to do with the sound it makes. In the truck Ultra Low Sulfur diesel (ULSD) makes more noise and less power than Low Sulfur diesel (LSD) did. And B20 biodiesel is a lot quieter than either ULSD or LSD.

My guess is that diesel in Japan 30 years ago is probably a lot different than the ULSD we are using today. So it may not have sounded quite so chaotic back then.

 

[Car Doc]

Been running gray bottle power service @ 200% with red ulsd and my engines noise is so much improved I cant believe my ears it is so smooth and quiet now my wife even noticed.

Steve

 

[California]

Power Service does help a lot. It (gray bottle) claims to raise Cetane 6 points, used at full strength.

I have read that diesel in Japan is minimum 45 Cetane so I assume these tractors were designed to that standard, while US diesel is lower, sometimes 40 Cetane. I expect the PS brings the fuel up to what the tractor was designed for.

 

[rmully]

The three cylinder is nice and smooth. Like a tractor cousin to a Toyota.

The twins are a great value for the money, and a 3 cylinder with Powershift capable of the same work is going to cost a lot more.

Thanks for the review as you made up my mind and I just bought a YM2020. Everyone was so helpful because of the open discussions. With so many models and with all the problems with the VN tractors I decided that this 2020 with a little over 500hrs was going to be the way to go for me.

 

[California]

Great news! Congratulations!!! :drink:

Got any photos?

 

[mus302]

Congratulations on your purchase. I think you will get a lot of good work out it. And like California said if you can show us some pictures.

 

[Car Doc]

Power Service does help a lot. It (gray bottle) claims to raise Cetane 6 points, used at full strength.

I have read that diesel in Japan is minimum 45 Cetane so I assume these tractors were designed to that standard, while US diesel is lower, sometimes 40 Cetane. I expect the PS brings the fuel up to what the tractor was designed for.

That's what I figured also because it really helps. I assume the compression is different but I am not a diesel mechanic I have no idea what makes what work on one.

Steve

 

[Neat 1500]

the cetane rating between sellers here varies a fair bit. some one did an independant test on the major fuel manufacturers and they varied from 42 up to 50 which is supposedly what they are all meant to be. i use BP diesel in my cruiser as this was the 50 cetane rating and will now use this in the yanny.( hehe this thread has gone from powershift to cetane rating in diesel )

 

[Eddie]

Thanks for the review as you made up my mind and I just bought a YM2020. Everyone was so helpful because of the open discussions. With so many models and with all the problems with the VN tractors I decided that this 2020 with a little over 500hrs was going to be the way to go for me.

I really love the dash shifter on the 2020. Really is handy when moving stuff with the FEL. One tough little ole tractor.

 

[rmully]

I will not get the tractor as it will ship around May15th so i will post pictures. I bought it from Halopka Equipment, LLC and they are really great people to deal with, honest and up front. I have talked to a number of dealers and no one was as straight forward as Halopka Equipment. Their prices are great and the service was what I wanted ...no BS. If anyone is looking for a Yanmar with original low hrs and an "A" rated tractor give them a call, they have a web site and update their inventory on a regular basis.

Robert

 

[YanmarFever]

It is especially true of the smaller ones !

YAMERHAMMER !!

 

[kenmac]

rmully. Unless I missed it . Please Update your profile so everyone will know your location. It's nice to know where people are from

 

[Verleih-Nix]

( hehe this thread has gone from powershift to cetane rating in diesel )

That is the same I was thinking when I was reading.

At first for those who want to know a little bit more of cetan number:
Cetan Number

the next is: does someone know if the shifting itself, can be adjusted(more smooth between the gears) ?

Stefan

 

[LaytonAg]

The power-shift is worth the money if you're considering a FEL.

The YM2010 is an excellent tractor and the largest two cylinder Yanmar ever produced in the YM series.

Mark777 could you elaborate on the value of power-shift if you have a FEL?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Car Doc]

Saves time and effort since its clutchless shifting in other words you can go from forward to reverse w/o clutching just move the shifter into neutral or push the clutch in as I usually do since I make a main box gear change at that point and go into reverse it depends on the circumstance however the up-shifting is clutchless which is nice if you are moving something a good distance and lots of trips.

Its best to time it right like when you come to a standstill getting a bucket full then move the powershifter to neutral then reverse backup turn and (optional: hit brakes) shift into 1 and go.

I usually end up shifting the main box into 1st or 2nd when I get to a pile and then after getting a load shifting the main box into 3rd but other than that clutching its all done by the powershift lever. hth

Steve

 

[Buppie]

You don't want reverse direction without stopping with a powershift transmission. It is not a shuttleshift.

 

[rmully]

Here are some pictures of my "new" YM 2020 that I promised to post. I will have possession of it in a week as it is coming from WI to NC

Robert

 

[ninefinger]

Well, it is pretty, hope it serves you well.