Power steering cylinder...

[ICUFLY]

Can anyone tell me what size the power steering hoses are? The threaded fitting, I need to get 2x 45 degree fittings to reroute the hoses to go over the front axle, instead of under. Since going under allows them to be pinched by the steering linkage. I'm not positive this can be done but am willing to give it a try. Has anyone else had a similar problem?. Or any suggustions on fixing this situation..

Thanks

Dan

 

[Affordable]

There are 2-sizes used, 14mm & 16mm, not sure which yours has

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[mffarmall]

Mine go over and they look like standard parts. The builder might have used what was around. Check with afordable they might have a system that already is designed for this. If they are too long. Can you just put a small loop at the begining of the line?

 

[ICUFLY]

Thanks mff I've seen newer models that have the hoses over the axle instead of under. That is why I'm gonna try to switch mine to over the front axle, just trying to get all the supplies before I tear into it. I hate having to run back to town just for some small item I forgot.

 

[greg_g]

I've seen newer models that have the hoses over the axle instead of under.

I'm wondering if your situation may be nothing more than an assembly error. Is there a chance that the cylinder itself is simply upside down? My 1999 model still had the old side mounted cylinder, but I also had a 2000 model with the front cylinder location like yours. It's been several years, but I'm pretty sure my steering hoses attached from the top.

If your cylinder currently has the threaded holes for the hydraulic fittings on the bottom of the cylinder, perhaps an easier solution would be simply to turn it (the cylinder) right side up. If you rotated the cylinder on its bracket - so those holes were on the top - you should even be able to use the original hoses and fittings again. Or would that create some kind of clearance problem?

//greg//

 

[Diamondpilot]

Greg could be on to something here. My 2003 has a front mounted cylinder and has the hoses on top with 45 deg adapters between the hoses and the cylinder.

Chris

 

[ICUFLY]

I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow, and get input from them. I should have already had them but in the middle of my work week now. It's been kind of sloppy around here lately warmer weather melting all the snow and looks like some rain tonight thru tomorrow. I've also been working on getting all of my lights working properly. Thanks for the info guys....

 

[ICUFLY]

OK gonna try to load some photos.. And yes I have a new boot for the steering cylinder ( a pretty BLUE one). I know I'll have to get new hoses (longer). So I guess it'll be best to just remove 1 and see if the local hose makers can fix me up, maybe they can put the angled fitting on the new hose. Will post an update when I get the chance to get new hoses made..

 

[Diamondpilot]

As Greg stated your cylinder is in wrong. Loosen the cylinder and rotate it so the fitting are upright. Contact Ronald at Ranch Hand Supply to get the new hoses. Trying to run all over town is a loosing battle for metric stuff. Ronald can custom make hoses now to any length I think. He will have them in your hands by the weekend if you call him today.

http://www.ranchhandsupply.com/replacementparts/tractorhydraulichoses.html

Other tractor dealers may be able to help you also like Spring Valley or Affordable tractors. Just google them. I know Ronald will set you up at a fair price and get it quick.

Chris

 

[ICUFLY]

OK Thanks Chris. I'll get with him and get it turned around..

 

[Diamondpilot]

By the way it looks as if your jamb nut is loose on the wheel side of the steering cylinder. Looks like its time to give that hard working girls some TLC!

Also relocate them hard lines going to the steering hoses. They need to come up so they do not get damaged from hanging low. It may take some slight bending so be careful.


Chris

 

[dcyrilc]

By the way it looks as if your jamb nut is loose on the wheel side of the steering cylinder. Looks like its time to give that hard working girls some TLC!

Also relocate them hard lines going to the steering hoses. They need to come up so they do not get damaged from hanging low. It may take some slight bending so be careful.


Chris

Any chance you might be able to post some pix of how yours run?

 

[erj]

Here are pictures of my 284.

My suggestions:
1. Turn the cylinder as suggested. This will put the fittings facing the front of the tractor rather than the rear. It doesn稚 look like there is enough clearance if you leave them facing the way they are.
2. Install 90 degree fittings.
3. It appears that you will need to then install longer hoses over the axle cause there doesn稚 look to be enough slack in the existing ones to reach.
4. Move the axle fill dipstick to the right side so that you won稚 have to fight the hoses when you want to check the oil level.
RonJ

 

[Diamondpilot]

ERJ gave a great explanation and pictures. Mine are he same way.

Chris

 

[ICUFLY]

By the way it looks as if your jamb nut is loose on the wheel side of the steering cylinder. Looks like its time to give that hard working girls some TLC!

Also relocate them hard lines going to the steering hoses. They need to come up so they do not get damaged from hanging low. It may take some slight bending so be careful.


Chris

Thanks Chris, I noticed the jam nut too just haven't got started on it yet. TLC is on it's way just a little at a time and deciding what's needed sooner vs later. Working on a few of projects as soon as spring arrives and the tractor will be a big help, so gonna get it ready to do the hard work so I don't have to..

Thanks for the pix ERJ

 

[studor]

2. Install 90 degree fittings.

Ronj -- they are forty fives in the picture -- course there are two which makes 90 degrees:thumbsup:
Thanks for the dipstick tip -- it is a duh, why did I not think of that but I didnt
ICUFLY --when my loader crunched one of my hoses, I ran around looking for a replacement locally -- could be done but at three times the price -- I mail ordered replacements as the others have suggested

 

[erj]

Ronj -- they are forty fives in the picture -- course there are two which makes 90 degrees:thumbsup:

Mine are 45's, but since your fittings will be aimed at the front of the tractor rather than up - I think that you will be better of with 90 degree fittings.
RonJ

 

[dcyrilc]

Mine are 45's, but since your fittings will be aimed at the front of the tractor rather than up - I think that you will be better of with 90 degree fittings.
RonJ

I think the idea is to rotate it so that the fittings point up and then use 45's to route over the top.

 

[greg_g]

I think the idea is to rotate it so that the fittings point up and then use 45's to route over the top.

If you owned one of these yourself, you'd probably have a better feel for what's going on here. The steering cylinder is anchored on a post type bracket. It can only be mounted two ways. Depending upon where the holes are tapped into the cylinder, that's either (a) facing front or rear, or (b) up or down. The OP photos show his currently facing rearward. Rotating the cylinder on it's anchor would obviously then place those hole facing forward. 90 degree elbow fittings (or 2x45) would then facilitate running the hoses up and over the front axle housing.

//greg//

 

[dcyrilc]

If you owned one of these yourself, you'd probably have a better feel for what's going on here. The steering cylinder is anchored on a post type bracket. It can only be mounted two ways. Depending upon where the holes are tapped into the cylinder, that's either (a) facing front or rear, or (b) up or down. The OP photos show his currently facing rearward. Rotating the cylinder on it's anchor would obviously then place those hole facing forward. 90 degree elbow fittings (or 2x45) would then facilitate running the hoses up and over the front axle housing.

//greg//

I was going off what Chris said.

As Greg stated your cylinder is in wrong. Loosen the cylinder and rotate it so the fitting are upright. Contact Ronald at Ranch Hand Supply to get the new hoses. Trying to run all over town is a loosing battle for metric stuff. Ronald can custom make hoses now to any length I think. He will have them in your hands by the weekend if you call him today.