power service addative

   / power service addative #22  
I'm an occasiopnal PSA user, keep it in the truck but don't use it with every tank. I get fuel in both ends of New Hampshire. Two weeks ago up north bought local mountains fuel and was fine at -22F. Yesterday at -14F with local seacoast fuel my truck died on the way to work in the parking lot. 3 short term starts got me into a parking space. Put in some PSA, DUH - a day late. Later in the day it warmed to 7 F but even heating the filter didn't help. Came back with a space heater & a blue tarp & in 15 minutes I was running again. If I could just remember to use PSA ahead of the forecast I wouldn't have to go through this. Same thing happened two years ago -beyond my apparent memory ??? At least this time I didn't have to pay for a tow. MikeD74T
 
   / power service addative #23  
I've done the same. It's quick and easy. Two squirts to the 1oz mark and then I'm off to fill the diesel can.
I've had no gelling issues using road diesel (pre treated I'm sure) and adding PS.
You should not with off road either since it is just red dyed on road.
 
   / power service addative #24  
I'm an occasiopnal PSA user, keep it in the truck but don't use it with every tank. I get fuel in both ends of New Hampshire. Two weeks ago up north bought local mountains fuel and was fine at -22F. Yesterday at -14F with local seacoast fuel my truck died on the way to work in the parking lot. 3 short term starts got me into a parking space. Put in some PSA, DUH - a day late. Later in the day it warmed to 7 F but even heating the filter didn't help. Came back with a space heater & a blue tarp & in 15 minutes I was running again.
*If I could just remember to use PSA ahead of the forecast I wouldn't have to go through this. Same thing happened two years ago -beyond my apparent memory ??? At least this time I didn't have to pay for a tow. MikeD74T
*The best way to do that is put it in every time you buy fuel.
 
   / power service addative #25  
I know some swear by the PS products. I swear AT IT. Using PS in the white bottle has left me on the side of the road a half dozen times. 2 years ago I switched to "Howes Diesel Treat" and have had no problems since.

Here's a comparison;
Howes is made in Canada where it gets COLD
PS is made in Texas where cold means wearing socks with your sandals
Howes is cheaper than PS white
Howes is Guaranteed to not leave you stranded (has some requirements to prove use)
PS is NOT guaranteed to do anything except drain your wallet
Howes has a pleasant odor
PS - not so much
Howes can reverse gel on a filter (not its prime function, but it does)
PS does not do a dern thang to reverse gel

Naturally, this is my opinion and YMMV

jb
 
   / power service addative #26  
*The best way to do that is put it in every time you buy fuel.

Between tractors & truck I buy about 900 gallons per year. Have only had trouble twice since Jan '02. Treating is the most reliable but is not necessarily the most cost effective. In that time I've never found water in my fuel. I just think the seacoast station, which has a high fuel turnover, blends fuel closer to higher daily temps than weekly or monthly lows. We seldom get more than a couple days below zero F before it warms. I get 3 weeks from a tank when I'm in the seacoast area 'cause I only drive 3 miles to work. Up north the daily temp can be below zero F for up to a month with lows in the -40Fs. They blend fuel accordingly but the fuel I buy there is gone by the time I get back to the south. I just need to get my head back into daylight sooner and treat per the forecast.

At work the chemistry department checks the quality of all fuel we buy for our fire pumps because the tanks are outside. They occasionally refuse fuel. Yesterday the diesel truck delivering that fuel died in the security inspection area because it's fuel filter froze & split. Doesn't speak well for their fuel, which is why we test it. MikeD74T
 
   / power service addative #27  
Have not had to use tractor in 4 days (but darn sure will need to move snow) tomorrow, Altough the diesel is winter blend , with three nites of O deg temp and worse tonigh i decided to add some power service, added 5oz to 6.5 gal tank started tractor and let it run about 20 min. all was fine. question WAS 5 oz TOO MUCH FOR 6.5 GAL. AND WILL IT HARM ANYTHING?

Heck ,ive used a whole bottle in 4-5 gallons before.diesal mechanic told me to,and it solved my water problem.Tractor ran fine
ALAN
 
   / power service addative #28  
I know some swear by the PS products. I swear AT IT. Using PS in the white bottle has left me on the side of the road a half dozen times.


Lets be fair... cold gelled fuel has left you by the roadside a half dozen times... it wasn't the PS.. in a 'blind' test of using PS or NO addative.. I bet using 'no addative' would have left you stranded as well!

Defining how good a product is based on the temp of the place it is manufactured in is almost as bad as saying you can't eat decent seafood in a land locked state... or that only wisc chees is good.. etc..

too many variables for those kind of statements..

soundguy
 
   / power service addative #29  
Good points Soundguy. Something else to consider when the temps drop real low is that using the suggested treat rate on the bottle will only raise the gel point so much. Most additives raise it 20 to 30 degrees F. So if your getting some of the fuel I have seen that gells at temps close to +40 deg. F. and use the suggested ratio at best your gel point has been raised to +10 deg. F and it's been a whole lot colder than that all over the US the last week or so. Another thing is that the same additive will effect different batch's of fuel differently. The gel point of untreated fuel can vary greatly now days and additives that raise the gel point 30 deg. on one fuel may only raise it 20 deg. on another batch.
 
   / power service addative #30  
PS also changed their formula to a version for ULSD. I've seen the old stuff still on shelves a few times. Possibly using the old stuff in ULSD doesn't cut it.
 

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