Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis

/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#61  
Owning a tractor is a manic-depressive experience.

I didn't want to spoil my earlier positive report on my first weekend with my new 2910, but we must report all the facts m'am: I broke my 72" deck when I backed up over a simple exposed tree root. The deck dented and then the blade began smashing into the dent. It is being repaired.

As I consider this a design flaw in the Kubota decks, I think maybe I'll start another thread to explain this in more detail.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #62  
Glennmac,
It took me almost a full year to decide on the tractor that would best serve my needs. Looked at JD, NH, Kubota and realized they all had different attributes and I couldn't compare apples to apples.
I sat down and listed the tasks that I wanted to do with the tractor and rated each task with a percent of use estimate. Once this was done, I re-evaluated each manufacturer and model to see how they would fit with my task list. My thought at the time was this list is not complete and I will eventually find other tasks that need to be done so I moved slightly upward in terms of the size of the machine. For thosee tasks that scored low on the percentage list, I decided that I would hire someone or trade labor and get the job done with the right equipment.
Pricing was the next consideration and I applied the prices to the tractors that I selected and weeded out those that were out of range. I went back to the dealers of the models that I had chosen and focused only on those rather than be pushed into an upgrade by the dealer. I added up all the pros and cons for each manufacturer / model and finally chose the 2710 with a 72" belly mower, 60" FEL, Teltrax canopy and turf tires. I have 9 acres with 5 open lawn/pasture and 4 wooded. This may have been slightly more than I need at the moment but as time go's by (remember this tractor purchase could last you for the next 20 years) I'm sure that for the additional monies spent I got what I wanted and then some. If you look at the additional $750.00 over 20 years, it works out to be the cost of a pack of cigarettes a month.
I wish you well in your selection as I was in the same situation. Just remember....buy for now and later and you will not be sorry.
Good Luck
Dale
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#63  
Dale,

Thanks. If you wade through this lengthy thread you will see that I took delivery of a 2910 and the implements listed in my profile two weeks ago. So far, I am very pleased with my decision.

Looking at your profile, we may have worked for the same employer in the Mid-Hudson Valley.

Glenn
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #64  
Glen, I am glad you finally got the tractor you needed. You will really enjoy having a tractor that fits your needs. The Bush Hog and Loader will see a lot of use. Last week end my son moved about 10 yards of bricks in about 15 minutes. That would take a little longer with a BX. Yes, the suspension seat is hard to beat.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#65  
Wen, thanks. You and others were a big positive influence. You couldn't convince me on the 3ph, though. I went with the Freedom Hitches.

In the middle of my repurchasing decision period I went up to Maine to pick up one of my seakayaks that was being repaired. I passed a Kubota dealer in the small town of East Dixfield on a Sunday when it was closed. They had an M6800 prominently parked near the road. I stopped my car and climbed on it(as well as others). I felt as though I was Captain Kirk. Actually, the wheelbase was shorter that I would have thought.

After 20 hours on the B2910 I no longer think of it as big at all, as I once did. Perspective changes. In fact, I can now see myself on an even bigger tractor .... No .... No .... No .... I will not go there.

Glenn
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #66  
Remember that my recommendations were based on having extendable lower links, pinned stabilizer links, and not changing implements more than a few times a day. As I said, the return on investment is higher for those that get paid by the job and need the quick hitch. I bet the quick hitch is as useful on a post hole digger as the hydraulic top link is. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#67  
Doen't work with a post hole digger, as they admit. Go ahead, make believe you are a Luddite. Try to keep your finger in the dike. You'll cave. In two years you you may be the Freedom Hitcher of the Month. (I don't know how to do the smiley faces.)

glenn
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #68  
Actually, you can make the Freedom Hitch work with most posthole diggers, but it's a bit tricky. You have to leave your toplink in the middle hole, mount the boom in the top hole, and replace the digger yoke with the Freedom Hitch implement section. I made my previous Bush Hog brand digger work this way, but I haven't gotten around to making a mount for the Danuser one yet. It's high on the list now, though. Actually, I just got the hydraulic down-force kit for it, and I'm planning to install it next week.

MarkC
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #69  
roger the $$$$$$ for the freedom hitch. The best solution would be a different tractor for every attatchment, but somehow the $$$$$ ain't there for that one either.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #70  
regarding the freedom hitch - Received the video and info and now have a new understanding of the "cost of freedom" ...

DaveV
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#71  
I'm posting this message to try to bump this thread out of the invisible TBN universe of lost knowledge. I am doing so because I always find myself recounting my initial purchase decision to newcomers asking the "what size tractor" question, because I have gotten a lot of emails over the years about people enjoying this thread, and because the words of newbie glenn sound fresher to me than the words of veteran member glenn.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #73  
Glenn:

It's wore out already.....I don't mean you, I mean the tractor /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis
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#74  
To complete my purchase story on the subject of "what size tractor to buy", I am adding a post I made yesterday in another thread:

<font color="blue">When I was researching and shopping, I was focused on mowing my two acres of lawn and brush clearing another acre on this side of the overgrown creek. And after I cleared that acre of the brush, rocks, stumps, etc., I planned on eventually mowing all three acres with a finish mower. Those other 8 acres on the other side of the creek were an inaccessable swamp and jungle--so forget that. It all seemed clear and logical to me, and therefore, applying the Occam's Razor parsimonious purchasing principle, I bought a BX.

Now I have 8 acres to mow. I have sweeping vistas I didn't have before, a sparkling and burbling creek opened up to deer and herons and ducks, and channels draining the swamp. I have improved the beauty and value of my property immensely--just me, all alone, with my tractor.

But not my BX. I realized after two weeks that the BX could meet the limited 3 acre objectives I had set for it. But I also then had glimpsed "the power" of the tractor. And that that power could terraform the swamp-jungle. But that the BX was too small.

I traded up to a 2910, built a bridge with the help of the tractor, and began clearing the other side of the creek. Beat the tar out of the tractor. Thousand dollars worth of damage and repairs eventually. Rode over dozens of huge 20 stemmed bushes, the tractor's nose pointed 30 degrees up in the air to get the Woods 60" medium duty cutter over the stems--and it cut them. Maybe took many passes and lug-outs but it cut them. Took me maybe 50 hours to clear an acre. I really needed a bigger, heavier tractor. Carted stuff away, but it took a long time with the small and weak FEL.

Now that it's cleared, it's got to be maintained or else it will re-junglefy. So I need bigger mowers. I need a 72" brush mower and an 84" finish mower. But the 2910 is too small for them.

And I want a backhoe--to dig channels, and dirt, and to sculpt a sitting and view spot high on a hill overlooking the open acres. The very best current backhoe for the 2910 (7800) is a Bradco 3375 frame mount hoe. But the frame mountings will interfere with my MMM. So I have to sell the 72" MMM, which is big money losing proposition, and then buy a RMM.

The answer is: I now inevitably need a Grand L to maintain and extend the work for which I should have had a Grand L in the first place.

Gee, how come I didn't foresee all this three years ago when I so scientifically specified the 3 acre jobs for my tractor. Because I couldn't. Tractors are magical ... like a cornucopia. Whenever you do one thing with them, that opens up the opportunity to do two new things you never thought of. Etcetera. Exponentially. As long as you have the land. And the will.</font>

And the imagination.

Indeed, I have ordered a Grand L 3430 with a few cute doodads and original customizations that I will be writing about in detail (and posting my first pictures ever) in a few weeks.

That's my story of "what size tractor to buy".

So far.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #75  
<font color="blue"> Indeed, I have ordered a Grand L 3430 with a few cute doodads and original customizations that I will be writing about in detail (and posting my first pictures ever) in a few weeks.
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Glen,

Stop for a moment, take a deep breath, and try to think clearly about this.

It is obvious that you will need a minimum of a L3830.

Now at first I was going to say this with a bunch of /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif faces...but now that I think about it, it really is the truth.

If for no other reason, because you are moving up from a B2910. The B2910 has a pretty good hp/weight ratio. The 3410 probably doubles the weight of the tractor but only jumps the hp by a little over 10%.

You may find youself wondering why you have to up those hills so slow, compared to how your B2910 performed. I know at least one person who moved from a B2910 to a L3010 last year found this to be true. I can't remember who that was but do remember his post here.

Are you going to keep the B2910 as a little brother for the new Grand L?
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #76  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Indeed, I have ordered a Grand L 3430 with a few cute doodads and original customizations... )</font>

I'm curious as to the "doodads" that you are getting.

Before finding a good deal on B2910 I briefly looked at the Grand L 3x30 series.

Had I purchased a new Kubota I would probably have ended up with a 3430 since, as I understand the rules...

(1) the 3430 is the largest Kubota that you can get with the mid-mower (and I like mid-mowers)

(2) The 3430 is only Kubota that has both CAB and MID-MOWER options.

I doubt that I would get the CAB, but it is sure nice to look at. Right now I am still transporting the Kubotas back and forth to the property so the lighter B series is the best fit for me. But once I build I may be in the market for a larger tractor. I'm curious how you will like your 3430 compared to the B2910.
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #77  
Glen, I think you are a tractorholic or something. I know it will irratate all the 2910 owners but I never could see the reason for those units. I think it should jump from 7500/2410 to Grande L. I too feel the need sometimes for a Grande L size unit and fully realize also that anything my 2410 cannot do a 2910 would be very, very marginal at BEST. Sooooo, if I could talk the boss into it I would go get a Grande L also, trade the 2410 and keep my BX. The good news is though that factually my 2410 has done everything I needed it to do.
Yeah, I remember your first post asking about tractors and your very specific laundry lists of tasks, my how things have changed.
Hey, about those canoes etc, here in Kansaw there is not much water but now down South THERE is plenty of water and the southwest actually has some nice boating areas also. I had a boat, a fairly big unit, when we were in Houston, I took it offshore to the rigs and rock banks for diving. I also had and still have a 14 foot inflatable with a 35 horse engine (yes--35--not 3.5) which I used mostly for diving launching off the beach. Too get to my question and you can answer it private--what do you think of those sit on top Kayaks from like Cobara and Ocean Kayak, just for paddling and playing and of course diving? Do you know anything about them?

You tractorholic you /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif. J
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #78  
<font color="blue"> Glen, I think you are a tractorholic or something. I know it will irratate all the 2910 owners but I never could see the reason for those units. I think it should jump from 7500/2410 to Grande L. </font>

Gee TresCrows...Why do I think it should jump from the Bx to the B2910??? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Then on to the L3830... /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #79  
<font color="blue"> I never could see the reason for those units. </font>
It may have some thing to do with Tim the Tool Man. More Horsepower /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Post-Purchase Depression and Upgraditis #80  
Glen:

Me thinks too, that you should go for the 5030. I'll tell you what, I'll sell you mine, 'cause I want and need a M9000. Too bad I'll have to give up my HST though. I though 52 ponies was enough, but it's never enough. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Besides, I want to listen to that turbocharger whine. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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