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jbrumberg

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To the Readership:

I am desirous of information and opinions related to Payne's Forks Company's Debris Forks. It is my impression from using the TBN Search Engine that depending on the type of toothbar/bucket arrangement some of the Payne forks will fit over the the toothbar (not that this is a problem). I think the time is approaching that I should start moving my "Rabbitats". Thank you in advance for the posts :). Jay
 
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I saw them in the Northern Tool Catalog and decided to build a pair of my own.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/102060-forks-my-fel.html

A few things that I've learned is that three forks are all you need. I built mine with five and that was too many. I took out two and it works better. For a cheap, easy way to move allot of material, I think it's the best deal out there.

Mine are built from 2x4 steel tubing that's 3/8 thick and after using them allot, the steel is bending. I'll probably have to build another set, and if I do, I'm going to put the steel on it's edge this time. I also built the angle of the front tip wrong. It could have gone either way, and I went the wrong way. I should have had the tips up so they would slide on the dirt better. My way has them digging in too easily.

Eddie
 
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Eddie:

Thanks for the feedback; now you have me thinking :confused: which can get dangerous :eek:. Jay :D
 
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Jay,

I'm guilty of that dangerous thinking thing myself!! hahaha

One more thing that I forgot to mention on those forks that I made was that the fine thread bolts striped out in about a week. I cut them off and replaced them with some grade 8 inch and a quarter corse thread bolts that have really worked out allot better.

Eddie
 
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EddieWalker said:
Mine are built from 2x4 steel tubing that's 3/8 thick and after using them allot, the steel is bending.
Eddie

Are you sure that's not 3/16" tube...I've never seen thicker than 1/4"...


edit: Just looked at your pics in the other thread. Looks like 1/4" to me...

Anyway, nice build!
 
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I think it is kind of funny that the Payne's web site says that the forks add 2500 pounds of lift capacity to you bucket. (I don't think it works that way!)
 
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N80 said:
I think it is kind of funny that the Payne's web site says that the forks add 2500 pounds of lift capacity to you bucket. (I don't think it works that way!)

It sure doesn't. One of the downsides of forks that mount to buckets is the reduction in capacity. But, these are typically used for brush. I use mine mostly for pallets.
 
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N80 and bjcsc:

I did not accept the website's Sales & Marketing hype about adding 2500 pounds of lift capacity to my FEL. If anything adding more weight out in front of the bucket would reduce actual lift capacity and unbalance the tractor as well. It is my impression that in some sort of convoluted sales logic they were somehow equating volumetrics (i.e. light weight debris) with bucket size and the size bucket that could handle the volume of the debris. What I really need/want is a grapple, but this acquisition would be difficult to win the approval from the COMPTROLLER a.k.a. "She Who Must Be Obeyed :eek:" no matter how much how whining, grovelling, and kowtowing behaviors I presented Jay :(
 
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jbrumberg said:
whining, grovelling, and kowtowing behaviors I presented

Been there. Done that. Never seems to work.

But Jay, even though those forks look very handy, weren't they around $700? Can't you get grapples, or bucket grapples for not much more than that?
 
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N80:

I am currently investigating the costs of the grapple option ;), and will be developing my "justifications" :cool: as I obtain more "factoids". Jay :)
 
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jbrumberg said:
N80 and bjcsc:

I did not accept the website's Sales & Marketing hype about adding 2500 pounds of lift capacity to my FEL. If anything adding more weight out in front of the bucket would reduce actual lift capacity and unbalance the tractor as well. It is my impression that in some sort of convoluted sales logic they were somehow equating volumetrics (i.e. light weight debris) with bucket size and the size bucket that could handle the volume of the debris. What I really need/want is a grapple, but this acquisition would be difficult to win the approval from the COMPTROLLER a.k.a. "She Who Must Be Obeyed :eek:" no matter how much how whining, grovelling, and kowtowing behaviors I presented Jay :(

Yeah, I'm pretty sure no one buys their logic...well maybe someone.

My grapple is my favorite implement of all. It's also from WR Long. What a rooter! The roots it will pull up impress me every time I use it. As an unmarried fellow (so far), I did not have the justification problems, BUT I have an idea for you, but it will only work if your significant other sometimes acts as your helper:

Wait for a hot or cold day (whichever she dislikes the most)

Take down a problem tree, or tackle a heavy brush problem, something to create many piles of stuff and cut it smaller than you normally would.

Park the trailer/dumptruck (whatever you use) a tad far away but not obviously far away

Try to "pick up a pile" with your regular bucket, but make sure not to actually pick anything up. Instead, "accidentally" spread it back out.

Verbally express your frustration with yourself, apologize for your limitations as the tractor operator and ask her to rake the pile back up while you try the next one.

Do the same thing to the next one.

Keep repeating this until she decides it's ridiculous and it would be easier to do it by hand.

Stop the tractor, get off and (together) start walking handfuls to the trailer.

After a couple of trips, suggest it would be easier if she would fill the bucket while you move it around.

Now, you're sitting on the tractor and she's loading the debris. She should be obviously annoyed at this point. If not, let her overfill the bucket a few times so it spills back out when you move.

Make it take all day.

Then, evaluate your chances of getting approval for a grapple. If you think they're pretty good, go to the next step. If not, go back to step 1 and find a new tree/brush problem for the next weekend.

Find a you tube video of a grapple moving brush. Tell her you found it by "researching" an easier way to deal with brush. Tell her the problem wasn't your ability as an operator, but that you were using the wrong tool! Let her watch it with you. Then tell her you could have done what you did in an hour if you had one. Suggest that you maybe should look into pricing one.

The rest is up to you!
 
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Bjcsc & N80:

So you want to get wifey :mad: at you two as well :eek: when I "blame shift" :rolleyes:- Jay:D

This is going to be a long term operation; but from my signature you can see that I will persevere :cool:. Jay
 
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jbrumberg said:
So you want to get wifey :mad: at you two as well :eek: when I "blame shift" :rolleyes:- Jay:D

Ha! Hey, I'm a team player. If that's what it takes to get you a grapple then I'm in. I'm just a name on a screen anyway. Throw me under the bus...:D
 
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bjcsc said:
Are you sure that's not 3/16" tube...I've never seen thicker than 1/4"...


edit: Just looked at your pics in the other thread. Looks like 1/4" to me...

Anyway, nice build!

My mistake. :(

Thanks,
Eddie
 
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bjcsc said:
Ha! Hey, I'm a team player. If that's what it takes to get you a grapple then I'm in. I'm just a name on a screen anyway. Throw me under the bus...:D

Bjcsc:

Thanks for the offer- you watch my back and I will watch yours :D! I think the following statement should become part of the TBN "Charter":

"We the members of TBN do solemnly swear to at all times commit to helping our fellow members spend all of their hard earned money in the acquisition of tractors, tractor attachments, upgrade equipment as needed, and actively defend and support our right to do so." Jay :)
 
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(Raising right hand)

I do solemnly swear to uphold the charter.
David from jax
 
 

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