Price Check Overpriced Tractor?

[TractorTidy]

Get things back in check here. Too much going back and forth. The price from your original dealer at @ 32,700 w/ the backhoe is a fair and accurate price. I would sell the combination for the same price but may vary on sale tax %. So he is right on. And he is not getting rich on you, it is fair on both sides.

As far as the Kubota L4400, you are not comparing apples to apples. That is not a comparable tractor to the DK series. The Grand L series is more comparable and the DK will still out spec. it. The L series is comparable to the DS series w/ the exception of hydro.. You don't have the features and heaviness or lift cap. that you would on the DK. So in your comparisons, please be fair by going apples to apples as much as you can. Yes the L4400 will be less, but a Grand L 4240 or 3940 most likely will not. Could be $2,500 and higher difference.

Everybody on here has an opinion mostly based on what they own not neccesarilly on real facts, you know the old saying about opinions!, but if you talk to dealers and people knowlegeble, you'll get better info. and can make an informed decision. Most dealers aren't out to get you, they are just trying to help you get what is best for you. Just separate the chaff from the fodder.

 

[murphy1244]

Get things back in check here. Too much going back and forth. The price from your original dealer at @ 32,700 w/ the backhoe is a fair and accurate price. I would sell the combination for the same price but may vary on sale tax %. So he is right on. And he is not getting rich on you, it is fair on both sides.

As far as the Kubota L4400, you are not comparing apples to apples. That is not a comparable tractor to the DK series. The Grand L series is more comparable and the DK will still out spec. it. The L series is comparable to the DS series w/ the exception of hydro.. You don't have the features and heaviness or lift cap. that you would on the DK. So in your comparisons, please be fair by going apples to apples as much as you can. Yes the L4400 will be less, but a Grand L 4240 or 3940 most likely will not. Could be $2,500 and higher difference.

Everybody on here has an opinion mostly based on what they own not neccesarilly on real facts, you know the old saying about opinions!, but if you talk to dealers and people knowlegeble, you'll get better info. and can make an informed decision. Most dealers aren't out to get you, they are just trying to help you get what is best for you. Just separate the chaff from the fodder.

And Who do you sellfor?????

 

[IslandTractor]

And Who do you sellfor?????

And which forum is this?

Kubota fans compare the L series to the DK. Kioti fans compare the DK to the Grand L. Neither comparison is exactly apples to apples but the DK is certainly closer in features to the Grand L. The only significant difference in terms of technology is the Grand L HST which is a generation ahead. The DK HST is same generation as the L. The other main reason it is tough to compare is the weight issue. The DK tractors outweigh just about anything Kubota makes including the smaller MX. Different build philosophy. Kioti has traditionally heavy tractors and Kubota basically invented the lighter style. Both have advantages depending on the task.

 

[Martian]

murphy,

What have you narrowed your options down too? Are you still planning on small farming?

As some have mentioned on here that a DK40se series is more comparable to like a 4120 series John Deere which will run you more money. That said I do think that price is still a little much. Kioti does make a good tractor (Deere is my choice - but that is a personal decision for what suits you best) and I'm sure you would be pleased with it.

If you are so cheap I would consider a used tractor, sometimes you can get a really good deal on one but depending on financing offers a new may make more sense.

For what you have mentioned in previous posts I think a DK40se may be more tractor than what you actually need.

 

[murphy1244]

For what you have mentioned in previous posts I think a DK40se may be more tractor than what you actually need.:laughing:
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Is there such thing???? Am still waiting on a certain gentlemen to e-mail me a quote for a DK45se HST. The Kubota dealer has been working the phones to get my price down also.He is pricing a L4400.
John Deere is WAY too overpriced for me. I need a tractor not a trophy....

 

[Martian]

Is there such thing???? Am still waiting on a certain gentlemen to e-mail me a quote for a DK45se HST. The Kubota dealer has been working the phones to get my price down also.He is pricing a L4400.

There's such thing, if you can't fit it where you need to take it then it would be too big. Also if you can spend less money for a tractor that will suit your needs perfectly fine and you don't have to pay thousands more for wasted HP would be too large in my opinion.

As for the DK45se vs L4400 is like comparing a Cadillac to a Chevy. The DK45se has many more luxuries. If you truly wanted to compare apples to apples it would be a DK45se vs a Kubota L4240 vs a Deere 4320 and so on. But right now you are considering a feature rich model vs a base HP model.

 

[IslandTractor]

For what you have mentioned in previous posts I think a DK40se may be more tractor than what you actually need.:laughing:
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Is there such thing???? Am still waiting on a certain gentlemen to e-mail me a quote for a DK45se HST. The Kubota dealer has been working the phones to get my price down also.He is pricing a L4400.
John Deere is WAY too overpriced for me. I need a tractor not a trophy....

Have you operated either the DK or L? They really are quite different except for general size and HP.

Also. the DK40se is the best bang for the buck. You have to have some very specific need for four extra HP to spend almost a couple grand more for the otherwise identical 45. AFAIK, No DK40 owner on this forum has ever said they wished they'd gone for the 45 or 50.

 

[murphy1244]

The guy I am waiting for a package quote onis actually priced the DK45 cheaper than the dealer in my town on the DK40... What the **** should I do??? I know the Kubota is a bare bones machine..
Wasted Horsepower??? My god man, I also own a 70 chevelle SS 454 LS-6 450Hp, is that a waste??????

 

[IslandTractor]

Wasted Horsepower??? My god man, I also own a 70 chevelle SS 454 LS-6 450Hp, is that a waste??????

Only when commuting or driving to the grocery store!

 

[Martian]

You mind as well look at a 9000 series JD as well then. A 9560R may due. They are only 560HP may be a little on the light side though:laughing:
JohnDeere 9560R Tractor 9R/9RT Series Four Wheel Drive Tractors JohnDeere.com

My point is that there is a point where you don't need any more tractor. If you want more I understand that, but if you want to save a couple bucks and from the way you sound I would think so then you may not need a DK45se.

 

[gkh7890]

The DK45 he is talking about that came in lower than the original 40 quote, is a left over and b/c of that little fact is why it is a better deal $$-wise. If I could buy a left over 45 cheaper ( & still new) than the a new 40, think I'd buy it with all other factors the same. Just say'n....

 

[Martian]

The DK45 he is talking about that came in lower than the original 40 quote, is a left over and b/c of that little fact is why it is a better deal $$-wise. If I could buy a left over 45 cheaper ( & still new) than the a new 40, think I'd buy it with all other factors the same. Just say'n....

I agree 100%. I just wanted to say that bigger is not always better. In this case the bigger seems to be a better option, but not always and not usually.

 

[murphy1244]

Marten, You will never make it on the Red Green show:laughing:

 

[KiotiDave]

Hey all,
The fact that the tractor is a leftover means nothing as long as it is new with less than 20+/- hours on it.
The DKSE series has not changed since it was introduced a couple of years ago. New is NEW in the eyes of Kioti or the dealer, you will get 2 years full coverage and 4 years powertrain with NO HOUR limits.
If he is willing to give you a deal because of the time it has been on his lot then I would take advantage of the opportunity. The tractor is the same size as the 40 the loader is the same etc. The 45 will be worth more in years to come and you are buying it for less money. How can you go wrong.
Just say thank you Santa and tell him where to deliver it because you only have a week left before the incentive programs end.
Have a great Holiday
Dave G.
KiotiDave

 

[murphy1244]

Has anyone heard a result on the squeling on DK40se HST machines. I have been following a thread and it stops at 12-12-2011 http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...565-dk40se-squeal-when-moving-reverse-32.html
I am not going to buy a very expensive problem!!!!

 

[IslandTractor]

Has anyone heard a result on the squeling on DK40se HST machines. I have been following a thread and it stops at 12-12-2011 http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/176565-dk40se-squeal-when-moving-reverse-32.html
I am not going to buy a very expensive problem!!!!

Keep your panties on. The squeal is 1) uncommon, 2) appears to be simply a harmonic noise in a external metal tube, and 3) has an easy fix by replacing the metal line with hose. There has been an exaggerated and frankly hysterical response by a few people about this issue. Korporate Kioti as usual hasn't done a good job communicating with customers or dealers but there has been zero evidence of "expensive problem' and this type of squeal phenomenon is well known in the industry. No reason to lose confidence.

 

[murphy1244]

Keep your panties on???? Now thats not nice So the dealer would not mind returns on a machine that squeels?

 

[murphy1244]

Dave, Does Kioti still have the 6000.0 cash back on the DK40SE HST machines???

 

[IslandTractor]

Keep your panties on???? Now thats not nice So the dealer would not mind returns on a machine that squeels?

Sorry. There has just been a lot of squealing about this issue and I'm a bit fed up. There are a couple of other threads, one just updated a week or so ago, that go into it in more detail so no reason to highjack this one.

 

[murphy1244]

no reason to highjack this one???? I started ths thread....:laughing:
I got a dealer in town that also not telling me about the 6Gs cash back program...