Once in a lifetime........

/ Once in a lifetime........ #21  
You might just send a note to your tractor manufacturer and ask them for advice.

I guess I'm a bit surprised to hear that the ROPS was ripped off with a single incident, and didn't take half the tractor with it.

You could tell the manufacturer that your next call will be to OSHA for a complete safety review of the ROPS design.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #22  
I would not even consider "fixing" it. Consider that the Rops are designed to protect you in the event of a roll over and are very beefy in design and construction. It would be my thought that if the force was large enough to rip the rops right off of your tractor, I would assume that you probably have more damage than you think.

If there was another party involved, you need to contact them and have them produce insurance. If they refuse, you need to talk to your own insurance. Since you are short on the details, there is really not much advise we can provide in your situation other than my advice above on your rops repair.

I am glad no one was hurt considering the event.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #23  
I would not accept a welded together casting as a reasonable repair job if my tractor was broken. While I would absolutely do it myself if I had broken the machine, I wouldn't be satisfied with that as a proper or professional job. I would get the housing replaced, which, as California mentioned, realistically means getting a new tractor.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #25  
I'm with everyone else. File an insurance claim your ins co or the person responsible for the damage. I wouldn't feel safe that the ROPS would provide protection for me if a repairof this type was made.If insurance wouldn't pay .I would be more inclined to use the tractor without ROPS than use the tractor with a repair such as this with ROPS
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #26  
I am glad nobody was injured physically the tractor parts can be replaced arguably. I will have a repair opinion when I see some pics but for now it sounds like a new to you used tranny case is the repair that will get it back to where it was pre-boulder. good luck
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #27  
Should I ask what the transmission case is made out of?

Cast Iron?

Is it possible to do a repair that would actually be better than original?

I just don't like the idea that anything took the ROPS off of the tractor without taking half the tractor with it.

I was looking at my little Ford 1715, and I'm convinced that if I lost the ROPS, either there would be major damage to the ROPS, or my tractor would not drive away from it.


RopsToAxle.jpg RopsToAxleFront.jpg RopsToFenderSupport.jpg FendersToRearHydraulics.jpg

The Ford ROPS wraps 3/4 the way around the axle, with 2 bolts in front.
Then it bolts to the fender support which connects to the top of the rear hydraulics.

Anyway, some photos of the tractor in question might be nice, but I would probably take some heavy, high quality steel and wrap it around something solid like around the axles or even around the entire transmission.

If you are planning on reinstalling the old ROPS, you will need to inspect it very closely for any bent members, as well as inspecting every weld for cracks. Perhaps even removing the paint from the corners.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #28  
It looks like from the OP sig that he has a YM2210D. Fredricks has some good ROPs info on their site and I think they are the source for most of the Yanmar ROPs. http://fredricksequipment.com/storage/rops-manuals/Family 4.pdf
I just recently purchased one from them for my YM2210BD. The installation manual for their ROPs has a good picture of the rear of the trans and the PTO cover plate. From the description it sounds like it just pulled the threads out of the bolt holes and if so it would be a matter of "only" replacing the rear trans/PTO cover plate and whatever was damaged of the axle mount fasteners. A quality cast iron weld and remachine could be done to repair the cover but it probably cost more than a replacement cover. Attempting to weld cast iron to mild steel....not a good idea IMO.

Steve
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #29  
Ok,
In that diagram, it should have been connected, 4 bolts to the back of the PTO housing, and half of one u-bolt around the axle.

It looks like it should be easy enough to replace that one cover, if that is it, and one can actually find the part. Although, are these bolts just into the cover, or into something deeper?

Which direction did the rock hit? Front to back, or side to side? I assume the ROPS aren't designed for high speed dragging forward which would be similar to whacking it from the front.

I still would be pretty dismayed to find the ROPS torn off of the tractor.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #30  
What a story. Are you just needing the pto cover? Part number 194310-24350. I'm not clear on just what holes are torn out?
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #32  
It looks like from the OP sig that he has a YM2210D. Fredricks has some good ROPs info on their site and I think they are the source for most of the Yanmar ROPs. http://fredricksequipment.com/storage/rops-manuals/Family 4.pdf

Steve

YanmarRops.jpg

Here is the mounting pic from Steve's link.

The ROPS appears to be mounted on the rear cover of the PTO, along with half a U-Bolt around the axle holding on the fenders. The bolts appear to only be in the cover, but you would have to verify that they don't extend into the transmission.

I assume that is the part number provided by Winston, Part number 194310-24350, although I don't see it online.

Anyway, talk to Yanmar about that piece. Is it available?

Perhaps you've been dreaming of a fancy new green or orange tractor, but I would hardly think this would constitute scrapping the tractor, just likely a pain to put in. Maybe you'll get some new bearings out of the fiasco. :D Depending on the sheet metal damage, that could probably be repaired too.

Depending on what happened, you might also consider attaching the ROPS to all of the axle U-Bolts/nuts, (4 holes on each side), and send some photos and an explanation to Fredricks, if they manufactured the ROPS.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........
  • Thread Starter
#35  
Yes, it's the same ROPS. Looks like the cover will fix the tractor.......plus a little PTO disassembly and reassembly !

Today is the first time I have been able to look at the tractor with a clear head. I'll get her in the garage tomorrow and start the work.

Now to find the cover. Thanks to Winston1 for the link, I'll call Steve Monday, and Hoye as well if Spalding doesn't have it.

As always, I really appreciate the knowledge and support.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #36  
Cant wait to see some pictures. I think I have the same rops on my 2020, and i am concerned that it detached it self from the tractor. I cant remember the manufacturer of the rops but I think would need to see how this failed. Especially if the u bolt connections failed as well.
 
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/ Once in a lifetime........ #37  
I installed the same ROPS as Stormpetrel (Group 4) in 2006. Photos. I think the u-bolts are simply the same ones (or maybe longer replacements) that originally held the fenders in place. The ROPS' tab over the axle looks competent to resist downward force. But those u-bolts would snap, given a lot of upward force. Photo showing u-bolts.


Another comment: I researched the manufacturer shown on the ROPS compliance label. Custom Products of Litchfield. They produce a large variety of OSHA-certified rollover structures for mining equipment, loggers, etc as well as farm tractors. I surmise that Fredricks went to Yanmar-USA's original supplier for these.


Edited: added group & mfr.
 
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/ Once in a lifetime........ #38  
Mine was purchased through Hoye but its called the "Frederick Family 6" and manufactured by Custom Products of Litchfield.

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/ Once in a lifetime........
  • Thread Starter
#39  
I called Spalding, the cover's on the way. Two or three places had a 2210 parts tractor, Spalding was the only one who returned my call after speaking with them.
 
/ Once in a lifetime........ #40  
Good deal. We haven't seen pics. I hope you get it fixed all back
 

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