Old Coot....Old Codger?

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A guy at work and I got into the discussion of which was senior in rank, "Old Coot" or "Old Codger". His opinion was that "Old Codger" was senior. That made him(3 mo. older) an "Old Codger" and me an "Old Coot". I ask you, Coots and Codgers, does this ranking seem correct?

Charlie
 
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Sorry, gotta go with "Old Codger" and it has absolutely nothing to do with me being one; facts are facts.
 
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Second that.
Codger is outranked only by Curmudgeon.
Coot is a "new" guy.
 
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How does "dirty ol' man" rank? That's kinda what I aspire to be in a few years.
 
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A guy at work and I got into the discussion of which was senior in rank, "Old Coot" or "Old Codger". His opinion was that "Old Codger" was senior. That made him(3 mo. older) an "Old Codger" and me an "Old Coot". I ask you, Coots and Codgers, does this ranking seem correct?

Charlie

Sorry, gotta go with "Old Codger" and it has absolutely nothing to do with me being one; facts are facts.

Facts are facts, but what are the facts?:)

I have access to the online version of the Oxford English Dictionary(OED): the definitive record of the English language.

Here are the OED definitions:

Codger

A mean, stingy, or miserly (old) fellow; sometimes, like cadger, a pedlar, tramp, or beggar

A testy or crusty (old) man

A familiar or jocosely irreverent term applied
a. originally to an elderly man, usually with a grotesque or whimsical implication
b. In more general application: Fellow, chap.

Coot

A silly person, simpleton


I report, you decide.:)

Steve
 
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Second that.
Codger is outranked only by Curmudgeon.
Coot is a "new" guy.

Again, what are the facts?

The OED lists Doctor Johnson's definition for curmudgeon: An avaricious churlish fellow; a miser, a niggard (Johnson).

I report, you decide.:)

Steve
 
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My on-line dictionary sez:
codger |ˈkäjər|
noun often derogatory
an elderly man, esp. one who is old-fashioned or eccentric. (When I was boy, we used a manual gear box, whippersnapper!)

I happen to be a geezer (an old man (used as a disparaging term). We do not "suffer fools gladly", and give short shrift to imbeciles- which applies to most everyone younger(and spryer) than us.

Galoots, on the other hand, can be of any age. (Why are they always called "big galoots"?)
 
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I could be a coot-codger or would it be a codger-coot.........now I am confused and guess I will have to go get on my tractor for a few hours, maybe more, to decide. decisions decisions
 
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Facts are facts, but what are the facts?:)

I have access to the online version of the Oxford English Dictionary(OED): the definitive record of the English language.

Here are the OED definitions:

Codger

A mean, stingy, or miserly (old) fellow; sometimes, like cadger, a pedlar, tramp, or beggar

A testy or crusty (old) man

A familiar or jocosely irreverent term applied
a. originally to an elderly man, usually with a grotesque or whimsical implication
b. In more general application: Fellow, chap.

Coot

A silly person, simpleton


I report, you decide.:)

Steve

Even a superficial review of the various definitions clearly show Old Codger to be superior, though this may escape the notice of an Old Coot for obvious reasons. Curmudgeon is clearly a different genus.
 
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I happen to be a geezer (an old man (used as a disparaging term).

Galoots, on the other hand, can be of any age. (Why are they always called "big galoots"?)

The OED's definitions are

Geezer

A term of derision applied esp. to men, usu. but not necessarily elderly; a chap, fellow.

Galoot

An awkward or uncouth fellow: often used as a term of good-natured depreciation.

Steve
 
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As a public service, I offer additional terms from the OED that require ranking as to seniority.

Methuselah

A person resembling Methuselah by virtue of longevity, a very old or long-lived person; (by extension) a very old thing.

Nestor

An old man, esp. a wise old man.

Ancient

A very old person or thing.

An old or aged man (or animal); a patriarch.

A senior, a superior in age.

Steve
 
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Boy, this is very applicable in a Kubota forum since most of you guys fall under one of the categories!!!!
 
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Boy, this is very applicable in a Kubota forum since most of you guys fall under one of the categories!!!!

Actually Roy, upon further review and reflection, based on the tractors I own and a white fence, I realize I am a Yuppie, so this whole discussion is moot so far as it relates to me.
 
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My snot-nosed 27-year old son just calls me the geezer.

I saw a good measure of geezer-ness in an old "Crankshaft" cartoon:

A pretty woman walks by, and you realize you have flannel shirts older than she is.

That one hit too close to home.

Later,
Z. (the geezer)
 
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Boy, this is very applicable in a Kubota forum since most of you guys fall under one of the categories!!!!

Ah! A response from a John Deere enthusiast.

Although I will remain above the fray, I am willing to provide the OED definitions of terms that Kubota owners may use to describe Roy and people of his ilk.:)



Steve
 
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Ah! A response from a John Deere enthusiast.

Although I will remain above the fray, I am willing to provide the OED definitions of terms that Kubota owners may use to describe Roy and people of his ilk.:)



Steve
I am greatly heartened to hear the humor so bountifully given. The winter of '011 is taking its toll. But ...... OED???? I am surprised. Not Webster's?
 
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I am greatly heartened to hear the humor so bountifully given. The winter of '011 is taking its toll. But ...... OED???? I am surprised. Not Webster's?

Dennis,

The title says it all: The Oxford English Dictionary -- the definitive record of the English language.

The OED's Etymology discussions are fascinating.

Steve
 
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Ah! A response from a John Deere enthusiast.

Although I will remain above the fray, I am willing to provide the OED definitions of terms that Kubota owners may use to describe Roy and people of his ilk.:)

Steve

I'm a'tremblin' in my boots...!!!!
 
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A pretty woman walks by, and you realize you have flannel shirts older than she is.
[/QUOTE

Ah-you young fellows!:(

As your age increases you will find that the term "Pretty Woman" is quite irrelevant as it no longer resides in your vocabulary nor can you remember what it's all about.:thumbsup:
 
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Dennis,

The title says it all: The Oxford English Dictionary -- the definitive record of the English language.

The OED's Etymology discussions are fascinating.

Steve
But it's un-American to use the King's English Dictionary. Are you a holdout from 1776? But yes, I can agree you on your other comment.
 

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