Oil & Fuel oil filter substitutes?

[Chiefbuck]

Folks, I'm looking for a suitable substitute of filters for my Kioti DK45. The closest Kioti dealer is many miles away. I have been using standard Ford oil filters (any brand) for over 15 years in my Kubota L235 with no problem. The Kubota is here in Bear, Delaware but the Kioti is up in Lehigh County, Pa at the "tree farm". If I buy parts here in Delaware, I'm happy because there is no sales tax.

 

[SunnyJim]

You can purchase a NAPA gold 1324 Part Detail same filter also fits the CK 25-35

 

[Chiefbuck]

SunnyJim, Thanks for the speedy reply, I just returned from the local parts store and ordered two Wix 51324 @ $8.00 each. Another parts store provided a PH2811 number for the Champion, STP and DEM brands. As soon as I am near a NAPA I'll pick up a 1324 Gold.
Thanks again!

 

[coobie]

Folks, I'm looking for a suitable substitute of filters for my Kioti DK45. The closest Kioti dealer is many miles away. I have been using standard Ford oil filters (any brand) for over 15 years in my Kubota L235 with no problem. The Kubota is here in Bear, Delaware but the Kioti is up in Lehigh County, Pa at the "tree farm". If I buy parts here in Delaware, I'm happy because there is no sales tax.

Trying not to beat you up to bad,why not try to ask your local Kioti dealer for a deal on 6 filters shipped??Just a thought.My point being we buy the Kioti tractors but we give the dealer NO SUPPORT.How in heck will they stay in business if we do not support them?coobie

 

[Coyote machine]

Trying not to beat you up to bad,why not try to ask your local Kioti dealer for a deal on 6 filters shipped??Just a thought.My point being we buy the Kioti tractors but we give the dealer NO SUPPORT.How in heck will they stay in business if we do not support them?coobie

Curious how buying a $20-30,000 tractor with attachments like a backhoe is NOT supporting the dealer?
Buying local filters from local stores is keeping some of our dollars with the 'local' businesses, instead of sending more $ to S. Korea, isn't it- or am I missing something?!
I don't see many 'deals' being offered by Kioti dealers, unless again, maybe I'm missing something...

 

[MichiganIron]

Curious how buying a $20-30,000 tractor with attachments like a backhoe is NOT supporting the dealer?
Buying local filters from local stores is keeping some of our dollars with the 'local' businesses, instead of sending more $ to S. Korea, isn't it- or am I missing something?!
I don't see many 'deals' being offered by Kioti dealers, unless again, maybe I'm missing something...

Not sure about all auto parts stores, but I don't think too many of them manufacture the filters they sell either. You may want to check the "made in ..." notes on the box.

 

[Coyote machine]

Not sure about all auto parts stores, but I don't think too many of them manufacture the filters they sell either. You may want to check the "made in ..." notes on the box.

I don't think I said anything about where the filters were manufactured? But I did ask if buying from local businesses, (that may be run by local folk, might keep some of the $ local). I'm fully aware of where virtually everything today is manufactured, and its not here in the states; whether it is/was the Bosch or Mann oil filters I sold for my foreign auto repair/sales store, or the Gislaved tyres from Sweden, etc., I've been around the filter and parts business for many years.
I still don't see how not buying a Kioti filter from a selling dealer is not supporting the dealer. ALL the work needing to be done under warranty is pretty much guaranteed to go to the dealer, along with all specialized, made by Kioti parts and accessories.
By buying a Kioti am I obligated to bring/send/take all my business to my dealer?

In the interests of full disclosure: I purchased one of MIE's backhoe thumb's from them because I liked it better than other ones available on the market, INCLUDING what my local selling dealer had to offer. However, I did buy a Kioti KB2485 hoe from my selling dealer though, I could just as easily bought a Woods or some other brand.

In fact, when I bought the first of two Kioti tractors from my selling dealer, both in less than a year's time frame, I did not even look at any comparable tractor manufacturer.
Turns out I'd never heard of a Kioti and thought my selling dealer was a Kubota dealer when I drove into his lot. When I drove out I had purchased a DK-35se/hst brand new with a KIOTI backhoe. I went back and bought my as yet unused box-blade off his lot and a pallet fork set too.

What I don't like is anyone implying that if I or some other tractor owner doesn't buy every little thing, like an oil filter, from our selling dealer, then we are being disloyal to our dealer. I doubt very much Kioti makes their own filters, and even if they do, there are LOTS of other quality brands out there that will do just as good a job.

 

[coobie]

Curious how buying a $20-30,000 tractor with attachments like a backhoe is NOT supporting the dealer?
Buying local filters from local stores is keeping some of our dollars with the 'local' businesses, instead of sending more $ to S. Korea, isn't it- or am I missing something?!
I don't see many 'deals' being offered by Kioti dealers, unless again, maybe I'm missing something...

Do you really think your filters you buy from your local auto parts store are made in the USA?Come on now your fishing!!My Kioti dealer is about 70 miles from my house and I support him all the time.I know he has a family to support also. To your anwser about implying,you should read my post AGAIN I did not imply anything,just asked a question.Good luck to you where ever you choose to buy your filters.I know where I will buy mine,MY LOCAL KIOTI DEALER.coobie

 

[Coyote machine]

Do you really think your filters you buy from your local auto parts store are made in the USA?Come on now your fishing!!My Kioti dealer is about 70 miles from my house and I support him all the time.I know he has a family to support also. To your anwser about implying,you should read my post AGAIN I did not imply anything,just asked a question.Good luck to you where ever you choose to buy your filters.I know where I will buy mine,MY LOCAL KIOTI DEALER.coobie

You might want to read what I've said above instead of just reacting to what you think I'm doing. And you can do what you want, and buy from whom you choose to buy from, as can I. What you can't do is convince me that my buying oil filters from where ever I choose is going to adversely affect my dealer; and that in doing so I am not being supportive of him/them. If buying filters is what the dealer's need every single one of us owner's to do every time we change our oil then the dealers are in a place where they are beyond anyone's help and filters is not going to make a difference one way or the other. Do you buy your engine oil from your dealer too?! I doubt it.

 

[Coyote machine]

Do you really think your filters you buy from your local auto parts store are made in the USA?Come on now your fishing!!My Kioti dealer is about 70 miles from my house and I support him all the time.I know he has a family to support also. To your anwser about implying,you should read my post AGAIN I did not imply anything,just asked a question.Good luck to you where ever you choose to buy your filters.I know where I will buy mine,MY LOCAL KIOTI DEALER.coobie

At your suggestion I re-read your post:
Originally Posted by coobie
Trying not to beat you up to bad,why not try to ask your local Kioti dealer for a deal on 6 filters shipped??Just a thought.My point being we buy the Kioti tractors but we give the dealer NO SUPPORT.coobie

and you're right there is no implication; there is however an assumption that as shown in red above,..."we give the dealer NO SUPPORT.How in heck will they stay in business if we do not support them?"

So where do you get to be the decider about what 'we' the Kioti tractor buying customers do or do not do in support of our dealers?! How would you know whether 'we' support them in the first place? Your assumption is astounding and not likely based on any facts whatsoever.

To Chiefbuck,
Sorry to have inadvertently hijacked your thread, (along with others) but I cannot let insults to the Kioti owner's go without rebuttal.

 

[Chiefbuck]

Guys, Thanks for the input, I was curious so I checked where filters that I had in the garage were made, Fram, USA, Purolator, USA. When I pick up the WIX filters I'll post their place of manufacture as well. The oil that I bought, Castrol HD Diesel oil 15W-50 could have come from anywhere, BP owns Castrol and the container lists NJ as an address. The machine however was made in South Korea where I spent a "delightful" 15 months which included two summers over 50 years ago. The return trip included sailing through a typhoon. As an old retired Navy Seabee, I did have some experience with heavy equipment, it looked OK to me and so far, after four years has had no problems. Besides that I got a great buy on it. It was a year old and the previous owner was going through a divorce. The folding safety bar allowed me to store it in our garage, that was the sale clincher.

 

[SunnyJim]

Wix and the filters they produce for Carquest and Napa will say Gasontia, NC on the packaging. For the most part they are made in the US, there are a few applications they have produced overseas. If you look for a country of origin on the filter itself rather then the packaging it could say mexico or poland.

From what I have seen the Kioti filters are primarily produced by Donaldson. Again you would have to check the filter for its country of origin.

Don't forget you can always go to a local bobcat dealer if the Kioti dealer is to far. I have access to niether without spending half a day on the road.

 

[unhappykioti]

I've beat this dead horse before, why should I pay a Kioti dealer nearly $70. for a CK20HST filter when I can get a NAPA Gold for about $12. Do you go to your Ford, Dodge, etc dealers for your cars and trucks? Just because it's OEM doesn't mean its the best. I have experienced many fuel filter failures on my 525hp Cummins N14 using Fleetguard (Cummins OEM) filters, NEVER have I experienced a failure using Baldwin filters.

 

[coobie]

I've beat this dead horse before, why should I pay a Kioti dealer nearly $70. for a CK20HST filter when I can get a NAPA Gold for about $12. Do you go to your Ford, Dodge, etc dealers for your cars and trucks? Just because it's OEM doesn't mean its the best. I have experienced many fuel filter failures on my 525hp Cummins N14 using Fleetguard (Cummins OEM) filters, NEVER have I experienced a failure using Baldwin filters.

I would like to hear more about these many Fleetguard fuel filters failures you had?I always ran fleetguard strataphore filters from my dodge dealer(cummins diesel) and never had one failure,just curious?coobie

 

[Bigturk]

Is there a Napa or other replacement filter for the two hydraulic filters on my DK40se?

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

I haven't had any luck finding one from NAPA. I just bought it from the dealer. here are a couple of links you can try.

NAPA Filters : Filter Look-Up

Wix & Napa Filters & Accessories: FleetFilter Secure Online Store

 

[Chiefbuck]

I just returned from "Parts Plus" with two Wix 51324 engine oil filters @ 7.98 each. In Delaware there is no sales tax so that was the total price. Both the filter and box claim to be Made In USA. I'm going to try WIX filters, WIX oil filters, WIX air filters, WIX fuel filters, WIX Heavy Duty Oil Filters and see if a cross reference is posted.
The nearest Kioti dealer for me (Bear, De), as far as I know is located about two hours away in Forks Township, Pa. The Parts Plus store is about five miles from our home.
Maybe Tractor Supply or one of the other Farm stores might carry filters. There is a Kubota dealer less than two miles away and other than price, no problem. I also have an old L235 Kubota for over 20 years, it has more welds on it than original steel but other than that issue, the only problems were broken hoses and starter issues which were easily resolved. I even wore out the seats! One tough machine but the Kioti KT45 is a monster compared to the L235.

 

[MichiganIron]

I've beat this dead horse before, why should I pay a Kioti dealer nearly $70. for a CK20HST filter when I can get a NAPA Gold for about $12. Do you go to your Ford, Dodge, etc dealers for your cars and trucks? Just because it's OEM doesn't mean its the best. I have experienced many fuel filter failures on my 525hp Cummins N14 using Fleetguard (Cummins OEM) filters, NEVER have I experienced a failure using Baldwin filters.

We would suggest you check a couple other KIOTI Dealers on the price of that CK20HST filter you quoted above. Someone made a mistake.

 

[Loren49]

Lot of difference between oil filter and air filter prices. Might be comparing different things.

Loren

 

[mefyj]

Also use the Napa Gold...
Use them on most all my equipment.
.... NAPA is everywhere.