Offset Rear Blade

[nisaacs]

I have a 7' Frontier with hydraulic offset, I really like it. The tilt and angle is manual. As you can tell by the weeds, I don't use it much

 

[airbiscuit]

The OP has a Kubota B2650. He's not going ti add rear remotes and hang a 1,000# blade on the back. He can do th efollowing:

1. Buy once, cry once - get what he really wants $$$
2. Find a used, good quality slider that's in his budget and start working now $$ (sell it for what he paid for it later if he chooses)
3. Wait,wait, wait to find a good used offset blade - no fun in the meantime

 

[RickB]

Bush Hog makes a nice medium duty blade with all three manual adjustments that would match well with a B2650. Others surely do too.

 

[oosik]

I bought a new Rhino 950 to go with my M6040. It has offset, tilt and angle - all are manual. This rear blade weighs 1050# and is 96" wide. I use offset and angle all the time. Gets the blade out beyond the rear tire. There are a couple places on my mile long gravel driveway where there is a significant drop off. Very close to the driven path. I do not like taking unnecessary chances.

I only use tilt when cleaning the driveway ditches.

 

[BackRoad]

Mr. Sawyer Rob, what is an 8-way? Not questioning, just keenly interested.

My understanding is a 6-way typically allows for a combination of:

Angle - blade swings around a center vertical axis to allow pushing or pulling, such as commonly used to plow snow towards a ditch...

Tilt - blade edge can be rotated on a horizontal axis, so the the blade can be tilted up or down such as for cleaning out ditches or adjusting crown on a road...

Offset - blade can be angled at the 3PH end, to offset the blade to the left or right behind the tractor...

The only other thing I can think of is angle of attack, such as adjusting the length of the top link to make the blade edge to cut more or less aggressive, (although that's not really inherent to the blade).

What other adjustment is on an 8-way blade?

 

[fried1765]

Everything Attachments

Wow....the price of those blades has risen dramatically!
I bought that EA blade in the 72" size, for about $300 less, just 4 years ago.
They are still very likely the most blade bang for the buck!
The offset requires no sliding.

I have had 3 other blades!
Nothing was as easy to use, or as effective, as the EA blade is.

 

[ctgoldwing]

I ended up with this EA 72" Extreme blade
It has been used extensively for snow removal and trimming my gravel driveway. The offset is an absolute necessity for me when working on the driveway. The grade was raised 10' to accommodate the driveway. Going over the edge is a two wrecker call - just ask one of our friends who came to look at the house while under construction.
Without the offset I could never get close enough to the edges. One caution tho - with a big load on the blade while it is offset will tend to crab the tractor.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Mr. Sawyer Rob, what is an 8-way? Not questioning, just keenly interested.

My understanding is a 6-way typically allows for a combination of:

Angle - blade swings around a center vertical axis to allow pushing or pulling, such as commonly used to plow snow towards a ditch...

Tilt - blade edge can be rotated on a horizontal axis, so the the blade can be tilted up or down such as for cleaning out ditches or adjusting crown on a road...

Offset - blade can be angled at the 3PH end, to offset the blade to the left or right behind the tractor...

The only other thing I can think of is angle of attack, such as adjusting the length of the top link to make the blade edge to cut more or less aggressive, (although that's not really inherent to the blade).

What other adjustment is on an 8-way blade?

On a dozer 6 way blade, up down is counted, as there is no "offset"...

SO, up/ down is also counted on a back blade, to make the 8.

(actually, it's the offset that makes the 8}

SR

 

[RickB]

On a dozer 6 way blade, up down is counted, as there is no "offset"...

SO, up/ down is also counted on a back blade, to make the 8.

(actually, it's the offset that makes the 8}

SR

So tilting the blade via toplink or other adjustment on the blade itself makes it a 10 way blade?

 

[RickB]

So changing the blade angle of attack via toplink or other adjustment on the blade itself makes it a 10 way blade?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

So tilting the blade via toplink or other adjustment on the blade itself makes it a 10 way blade?

Many dozers these days have THAT option, so........maybe ?. lol

SR

 

[Fladogman]

now it's becoming a challenge to count up the ways to adjust lol. I have the hydraulic top link so I'm going with the 10 way.

 

[Zebrafive]

I have a 6 way WOODS RB 800 blade for sale in Southwest MI, all manual, no hydraulics. Width is 8 foot.
I bought a bigger tractor, so I also bought a bigger blade, rather than damage this one.
$800

 

[Smokeydog]

I had a slider that I wore out in a couple of decades. Bolts could never keep the blade in place well. Was at the Kubota dealer for an used equipment auction. Used blades were going for more than I thought they were worth. Wander over to the new equipment section looking at new offset blades. Salesman priced woods and bush hog the same. While I was trying to decide which one was better a Woods rep happen come over to talk to salesman. The woods blade thickness was slightly thicker. He dropped the price on the woods $150. So that’s what I got. So much better than what I had. Getting the correct geometry for grading and heavier blade so important in getting the results you want. Only regret was not upgrading sooner.

Any grading requires lots of adjustments. The old Ford 850 and Kubota M5030 could make side link adjustments from the seat were tremendously helpful. New cuts have turnbuckle type. Upgraded the B26 to an aftermarket gearbox sidelink.

 

[marhar]

I have been looking and looking for an offset rear blade for quite a while with no luck on the used market. I mean the offset which is adjusted by pulling the pin up, rotating the whole rear assembly, and then putting the pin back in. I am well aware that a lot of of the rear blades have offset adjustments in the blade, in which you unbolt it, shift it over to the distance you desire, and then bolt the blade back in. I am also aware that the rear blades do tilt, to angle them, pulling materials in, or pushing it away.

Where I reside, we have an old railbed, which has been neglected for far too long, and it now has most of the rocks pushed to the side or the hump in the middle. I also have a 200 foot gravel driveway I maintain.

Goal is to get the blade out past the tires and able to pull the pushed aside gravel back into the tire tracks on the railbed, and to push snow away from the edge of my driveway.

Is the bolt and unbolting of the blade to adjust the offset THAT big of a pain in the butt, or is the discount in cost and increase in availability well worth it?

Thanks in advance you giant wealth of knowledge.

Take a look at Everything Attachments. Their blades are easy to pull a pin to rotate. to offset and to change the angle. They are even made in the USA. When I ordered mine they offered free shipping. The folks there were easy to work with.

 

[RancherGuy]

Buy once and cry once. That is a great quote, and it does make sense. Thank you for that.

And time and convenience, for sure, the ability to just lift the pin out, turn it, and pin back in and done.

I actually don't PLAN on having to move the offset quite frequently, like not on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis by any means. But on a job by job basis, however often that occurs.

I suppose it comes down to, is what is my price for convenience, when I do need it.

The replies here should be a good help in your selection. 25 years ago I bought my first tractor and at the time the salesman also sold me on a 10 ft Rhino HD rear blade at the same time. Absolutely no regrets. On my ranch it has been unbelievably useful. Not constantly, but a great asset. I bought it with zero hydraulics. 10 years later I laid out the money to outfit it with 4 cylinders for those actions, and added controls to operate off of 3 rear remotes - the cost was an added $1,000 as I recall.

So, you have a decision. As I see it, do you buy a blade that is expensive but does all that you want, or not? Do you see use beyond the railroad rock? If your biggest desire is just the rock, consider the ROI. Is your money better spent renting something to do the job, hire someone to do the job, or buying the truckload(s) that you desire? 200 feet of driveway is not a big project. If your time is free or you prefer spending an afternoon with your tractor, you might consider taking your tractor with FEL and "back dragging" the rock up to center of the railroad bed instead of going all fancy with a blade.

 

[Yard Sarge]

I agree EA makes a good looking blade but I didn't want to wait that long. I ended up buying a Rhino 70-07 and added hydraulic cylinder to offset it.

 

[oosik]

With my FitRite hydraulic top link - my Rhino 950 is ten way adjustable. Eight of the ways are manual. Otherwise it would look like an octopus out back.

 

[airbiscuit]

If you could get your front wheels to lean like a Road Grader, you could have a 12 way adjustable blade!

 

[airbiscuit]

Ooh, ooh, ARTICULATE and Lean, and you have a 14 way adjustable!