SCDolphin- Is that the Marathon on Fish Hatchery? I've not found another one in the midlands selling bioD. Didn't know their blend but thought it was B20. I'm planning on buying some B99 in Asheville to blend into my own diesel bought later from wherever. Problem is they only sell B99 in warm weather because it gels easily.
Oil & Fuel Off Road vs Highway Diesel
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Egon
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Exiled: Oops, 
my apologies. Seems Ive had to a lot of that lately??
my apologies. Seems Ive had to a lot of that lately?? Exile, thanks that's some good info.
The 6.0l has a high pressure oil system the fires the injectors. The HP pump is tough on the oil. Also the fact that 3 qts of oil is trapped in the HP pump reservoir which mixes with the new oil every time you do an oil change makes most dealers recommand 5k intervals.
The 6.0l has a high pressure oil system the fires the injectors. The HP pump is tough on the oil. Also the fact that 3 qts of oil is trapped in the HP pump reservoir which mixes with the new oil every time you do an oil change makes most dealers recommand 5k intervals.
sd624 said:
Yes the HEUI injection on the 6.0L tends to be a pain in the butt in a few ways. 1 being stiction. The shearing of oil being another. I wonder if this is why IH went with a common rail on the 6.4L. I've been researching their oil analizes. Right now all I can find is rather hard to get a base line. I've spoke w/ people that said their report requimends 2,700 max on their oil change and others split between 5,000 and 7,500 miles which shows no inprovements in that respect. I had a guy tell him me Blackstone told him he could go 12,000 miles. He claims to be using Rotella synthic and that its not shearing down.
I still love my 6.0 though.
Back to the original question ?
Dye / no dye.
Taxed / untaxed.
I don't know how linear the 2520 gas guage is but I'm down to a quarter of a tank.
I'm gonna have to buy something soon.
I went and bought a yellow tank.
Everyone is arguing at home whether it should be blue or yellow.
Label says diesel, but it was Home Depot.
I suppose I could siphon the furnace's oil tank in a pinch.
Dye / no dye.
Taxed / untaxed.
I don't know how linear the 2520 gas guage is but I'm down to a quarter of a tank.
I'm gonna have to buy something soon.
I went and bought a yellow tank.
Everyone is arguing at home whether it should be blue or yellow.
Label says diesel, but it was Home Depot.
I suppose I could siphon the furnace's oil tank in a pinch.
OP
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Diesel fuel canisters should be yellow if im not mistaken, atleast thats the color mine are.
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Kerosene tank is Blue.billb3 said:
Diesel is yellow.
I've only known diesel labeling being green or yellow. I have'nt seen green jugs yet. Unless your commercial it really is'nt going to matter. Kerosine is just #1 diesel. I use 5gal yellow or white Hydralic oil cans. Its just by accident that I have some yellow ones.
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- Diesel fuel intended for locomotive, marine and non-road engines and equipment is required to meet the Low Sulfur Diesel fuel maximum specification of 500 ppm sulfur in 2007.
- By June 2010, the ULSD fuel standard of 15 ppm sulfur will apply to non-road diesel fuel production.
- Beginning in 2012, locomotive and marine diesel fuel must meet the ULSD fuel standard of 15 ppm sulfur
- Effective June 1, 2006, refiners and importers nationwide are now required to ensure that at least 80 percent of the volume of the highway diesel fuel they produce or import is ULSD-compliant.
- Diesel fuel classified as Low Sulfur Diesel fuel may still be sold at retail locations outside of California until December 1, 2010.
ASTM D975 sets the lubricity spec by referring to a particular test method (ASTM D6079), known as 滴igh Frequency Reciprocating Rig?HFRR). In this test,diesel fuel is used as a lubricant between two standardized materials which are rubbed back and forth against each other. At the conclusion of the test,the size of the wear scar produced by the reciprocating action is measured. Fuels producing a wear scar diameter of 520 microns or less meet the specification.
Approximately half of the states, districts, and territories in the U.S. automatically adopted the most recent revision of ASTM D975. The others adopted an earlier version of D975, maintain their own specifications or have no diesel fuel specifications at all. Clearly, this does not inspire confidence that fuel quality in the United States is guaranteed by legislation. You should consult your local state fuel quality or Weights and Measures agency for the latest information applicable in your area.
In August 2005 the Engine Manufacturers Association (EMA) issued a statement saying that the 520 micron wear scar specification listed in ASTM D975 was not consistent with the requirements of fuel injection equipment manufacturers. They recommended that the lubricity specification be changed from 520 microns to 460 microns.
The processing required to reduce sulfur to 15 parts per million (ppm) also reduces the aromatic content (lubricity) and density of diesel fuel, resulting in a slight reduction in energy content (BTU/gal). The expected reduction in energy content is only approximately 1-2%.
Clean Diesel Fuel Alliance Information Center - Government - Industry - Consumers
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- By June 2010, the ULSD fuel standard of 15 ppm sulfur will apply to non-road diesel fuel production.
- Beginning in 2012, locomotive and marine diesel fuel must meet the ULSD fuel standard of 15 ppm sulfur
- Effective June 1, 2006, refiners and importers nationwide are now required to ensure that at least 80 percent of the volume of the highway diesel fuel they produce or import is ULSD-compliant.
- Diesel fuel classified as Low Sulfur Diesel fuel may still be sold at retail locations outside of California until December 1, 2010.
ASTM D975 sets the lubricity spec by referring to a particular test method (ASTM D6079), known as 滴igh Frequency Reciprocating Rig?HFRR). In this test,diesel fuel is used as a lubricant between two standardized materials which are rubbed back and forth against each other. At the conclusion of the test,the size of the wear scar produced by the reciprocating action is measured. Fuels producing a wear scar diameter of 520 microns or less meet the specification.
Approximately half of the states, districts, and territories in the U.S. automatically adopted the most recent revision of ASTM D975. The others adopted an earlier version of D975, maintain their own specifications or have no diesel fuel specifications at all. Clearly, this does not inspire confidence that fuel quality in the United States is guaranteed by legislation. You should consult your local state fuel quality or Weights and Measures agency for the latest information applicable in your area.
In August 2005 the Engine Manufacturers Association (EMA) issued a statement saying that the 520 micron wear scar specification listed in ASTM D975 was not consistent with the requirements of fuel injection equipment manufacturers. They recommended that the lubricity specification be changed from 520 microns to 460 microns.
The processing required to reduce sulfur to 15 parts per million (ppm) also reduces the aromatic content (lubricity) and density of diesel fuel, resulting in a slight reduction in energy content (BTU/gal). The expected reduction in energy content is only approximately 1-2%.
Clean Diesel Fuel Alliance Information Center - Government - Industry - Consumers
FAQ
Here's what the boys from John Deere had to say about using ULS/LS diesel fuel. It's from last nights John Deere Live on RFD TV.
www.angelfire.com/mi2/fpp/ulsd3.wmv
www.angelfire.com/mi2/fpp/ulsd3.wmv
PCABE5 said:
The other night I could'nt think of the EMA for the life me. I think its sad that our goverment will allow our fuel prices be so high and throw a high per gal tax on top of it but wont require the manufactors to meet the EMA's 460 micron specification. The manufactors have a hard time meeting the specs set forth by the goverment you forget about them going beyound it.
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Around here they put red dye in the on road diesel Knock about 40 or 50 cents a gallon off the price and sell it as off road diesel or home heating oil.dixie306 said:
I don't see how a tractor would run any better on fuel from a truck stop at 40 or 50 cents more a gallon for the same stuff.
The red dye isn't affecting the performance of your tractor.
You could put the red dye in the truck stop fuel you get and there would not be any difference in the way your tractor runs.
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Yep and that's why I can't see how paying tax on it makes fuel any better.billb3 said:
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LBrown59 said:
It doesn't. Time to whip out my dye pictures again. Picture taken at our refinery. We sell diesel to the public (mostly barges, tankers, not by the 5 gallon jug). If you have the paperwork and are exempt from taxes, you get red dye, if not we charge the taxes and you get no dye. The dye is injected at the last minute. We don't store dyed diesel. As you can tell, no one likes working on the dye machine.
Personally I buy it at the local gas station. But my tractor only uses about 1/2 gallon an hour.
Rob
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I set this up cause I got tired of paying 40 or 50 cents more a gallon for fuel and lifting and lugging 5 gallon cans got old.RobJ said:It doesn't. Time to whip out my dye pictures again. Picture taken at our refinery. We sell diesel to the public (mostly barges, tankers, not by the 5 gallon jug). If you have the paperwork and are exempt from taxes, you get red dye, if not we charge the taxes and you get no dye. The dye is injected at the last minute. We don't store dyed diesel. As you can tell, no one likes working on the dye machine.
Personally I buy it at the local gas station. But my tractor only uses about 1/2 gallon an hour.
Rob
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Wasn't there trouble a few years back with dye in marine diesel ruining seals and or gaskets in some diesel gensets or Cats or something ?
More recently there has ben troubles with fiberglass tanks dissolving from the ethanol in gas making some sort of black goo blocking filters and such. Not all fiberglass, just some.
More recently there has ben troubles with fiberglass tanks dissolving from the ethanol in gas making some sort of black goo blocking filters and such. Not all fiberglass, just some.
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How do you get the fuel into the white barrel?
How do you get the fuel into the white barrel?
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If you notice there are 2 fittings coming up out of the top of the drum2deeskip said:
The one without a hose on it is a cap for the 2" opening in the drum.
To fill the drum you remove this cap and fill the drum there.
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