New Yanmar-Cub CUTs

[Frog5234]

cubcadetyanmar.com is the site to see the new tractor and some information,

 

[dgl24087]

cubcadetyanmar.com is the site to see the new tractor and some information,

Here is the link CubCadetYanmar anding Page. Decent pics on site.

 

[MajMac392]

Its had the look of a John deere 2520 and they listed the lift limit thats identical to the 2520 specifcations. Looks like someone used what was already proven [/QUOTE]

Not knowing the JD line that well I looked at the 2520. Isn't that a smaller tractor/frame/weight than the 7000 series of Mitsubishi Cubs? At 32 HP I would think the new Cub is more in the 3203 or 3120 size. Until we see the specs and are able to touch and feel it we all might be speculating. I would guess there would be a lot of similarities between Cub-Yanmar and JD than there ever has been.

 

[Fordlords]

From what they say the complete line will be up to 50 HP. The 32 HP Mitsu in the 7500's is currently the highest powered Cub CUT offering.

Once the Cub/Yanmar's hit the ground, IF Cub dealers can provide service matched to that of JD dealers, the tractors should (and in theory BETTER) be a 100% success. Some have said they will not work unless the tractor is 100% Yanmar, but Yanmar tried that in their USA beginnings and found better success working with motivated USA manufacturers and dealer networks (JD).

Of course speculation is one thing- a great small tractor is another. But to be honest I don't think anyone has felt Cub's previous CUT/SCUT lineups to be great by any stretch, and they really need the expertise of Yanmar to get to that level.

-Fordlords-

 

[MajMac392]

Fordlords,
Oh wow, you hit a nerve. “But to be honest I don't think anyone has felt Cub's previous CUT/SCUT lineups to be great by any stretch, and they really need the expertise of Yanmar to get to that level.”

My 7234 Mitsubishi Cub is 10 years old and I really can’t say anything bad about it as far as reliability, durability, and overall capability of the machine. It is my first tractor but when I bought it the specs were better than other comparable CUTs but the price was the deal breaker at the time. Some people have had problems with Cub models but as you read the other forums you find other brands with complaints as well. If I replace this one I will again consider price, specs, warranty, dealer availability, resale, etc. but I would not hesitate to buy another Mitsu Cub or Cub/Yanmar. So I’m not necessarily ‘Brand Loyal’ but to get a few extra ponys and an HST I would start first looking at the Cub line. This looks like a sound business arrangement with Yanmar. Yanmar has a well proven track record with JD and they are found in a lot of other applications, Marine, etc. so parts, and support should be easy to find.

 

[ducati996]

Its had the look of a John deere 2520 and they listed the lift limit thats identical to the 2520 specifcations. Looks like someone used what was already proven

Not knowing the JD line that well I looked at the 2520. Isn't that a smaller tractor/frame/weight than the 7000 series of Mitsubishi Cubs? At 32 HP I would think the new Cub is more in the 3203 or 3120 size. Until we see the specs and are able to touch and feel it we all might be speculating. I would guess there would be a lot of similarities between Cub-Yanmar and JD than there ever has been.[/quote]

THE EX3200 dosent state the weight but it mentions the loader with the ability of 900 lbs. Same as the 2520 which is conservative, but not overly impressive for a 32HP machine. If its supposed to compete with the 3120 it should weight 2900 lbs and its lift ability should be 1500 lbs minimum.

Cub built machines werent to effiecent in HP to PTO conversions - meaning high HP machine with low (compared to competitors) PTO outputs. Im sure Yanmar will help close that gap.

Right now not enough info available at least what I can find.

 

[Fordlords]

I didn't mean to hit any nerves with my comment, there have been quite a few Cub CUT models that have been very decent, and overall most owners have been pleased with them. By saying not "great," my meaning on that was on overall rating and resale value and a few other points, they have not been at that top notch level like Deere and Kubota, which is a level I believe that Yanmar is capable of getting them to. I think it will also be good for the dealers on the service level to have all the SCUT/CUT models eventually being under the Cub/Yanmar build plate, instead of some models being Diahatsu, some Mitsu, some Kioti, some with CAT engines, etc. You can't expect a service department to be capable of doing prompt, quality repairs when one name is made by several manufacturers.

And to those who presently have good Cub utility tractors, hats off to you!

-Fordlords-

 

[MajMac392]

Not a problem Fordlands......and like Ducati said, until we see more on the specs on the new models it is all speculation at this point.

 

[EFC]

Once the Cub/Yanmar's hit the ground, IF Cub dealers can provide service matched to that of JD dealers, the tractors should (and in theory BETTER) be a 100% success. Some have said they will not work unless the tractor is 100% Yanmar, but Yanmar tried that in their USA beginnings and found better success working with motivated USA manufacturers and dealer networks (JD).

-Fordlords-

The new Cub will be a featured down or base model version of the AF and EF line of Yanmar’s. Extremely nice tractor but the Japanese version is much nicer. Size and weight wise per hp they are smaller and lighter than a normal US tractor. Definitely lighter than the Mitsubishi models of the past.

Yanmar left because they don’t like litigation

Buck

 

[PA hayseed]

I heard a rumor that cub may be having some incentives to bring back market share when they roll out these new models. Anyone else heard this?

I am looking at getting rid of my 6284, the 32 hp cub/yan looks nice, but looks don't matter when I'm in my field. I was hoping to get a tractor that can do something, but I haven't seen any specs on the models above 32hp. On the website it says that they have the compacts up to 50hp.

Anyone got a lead where I can look?

 

[broncosfan]

The only lead I have found is the company web site which says chck with your dealer in August. It sure will be interesting.

 

[WGHickory]

Just saw the new Yanmar Cub at my local dealer this evening. Going to check it out and test drive it in the morning.

 

[MajMac392]

They now have the specs for one of the tractors, the Ex3200. I guess I'm a little confused why the 3 point lift @ 24" is only 1100 pounds on a 32 HP, 2550 pound tractor. My 10 y.o. 7234 CC (23 HP Mitsubishi drivetrain) has a 1653 LB lift. It seems like a real low number.

 

[LMTC]

Just remember....this is a contract tractor. A tractor being marketed and sold by an entity OTHER than the manufacturer or the manufacturer's subsidiary. Look closely at the history of contract tractors and how well (or not) they are supported when the contract ends. Lots of people looking for parts for the Hinomoto and Iseki made Agcos and Masseys of the late 80s, early 90s. Same with those made for Simplicity and White. Early Ford compacts (made under contract by Shibaura), notably the 1600, have become all but impossible to parts source. Call some JD dealers and ask them to be candid about the parts situation for their 50 series (650, etc) of first compacts.

We are getting calls from JD dealers looking for parts from OUR grey market Yanmar sources in the hope they can match some to some of the JD 50 series. Who'd a thunk it?

 

[Fordlords]

Very true, but I think it applies to just about every compact tractor now with the global (disposable) market where very few manufacturers build all their equipment under their own roof anymore. And that is the by-product of it, where you spent a small fortune on a tractor that you planned to keep for 30+ years, but end up struggling to find parts 10 years later or you just get rid of the thing. Cub has used so many different outsource names it's hard to keep track of them- Daedong, Mitsubishi, Yanmar, Kubota, Diahatsu, etc. They probably would have been better off just designing and building their own CUT's years back, would have made things less confusing, probably resulted in better tractors, and kept more Americans employed.


-Fordlords-

 

[LMTC]

Very true, but I think it applies to just about every compact tractor now with the global (disposable) market where very few manufacturers build all their equipment under their own roof anymore. And that is the by-product of it, where you spent a small fortune on a tractor that you planned to keep for 30+ years, but end up struggling to find parts 10 years later or you just get rid of the thing. Cub has used so many different outsource names it's hard to keep track of them- Daedong, Mitsubishi, Yanmar, Kubota, Diahatsu, etc. They probably would have been better off just designing and building their own CUT's years back, would have made things less confusing, probably resulted in better tractors, and kept more Americans employed.


-Fordlords-

The interesting thing is the one very notable exception.....grey market yanmars. Enough of many of the models have been imported and sold (apparently many more than most or all of the contract tractors I referenced above) to attract the attention of aftermarket parts suppliers. We now have a 158 page aftermarket parts catalog for our grey yanmars with things from headlight bulbs to head gaskets, pistons, rings, pumps, seals, sleeves, etc.; even new grills and headlight assemblies for some models....and this will only grow as sales grow. These 25-30 year old tractors are probably the best supported on the planet due to plain old supply and demand.

 

[ice]

Sorry, I misread the post.

 

[MajMac392]

WGHickory, did you ever go to your dealer and check on the new Yan/Cub?

 

[BTI]

It's a fact that most all compacts will be orphaned in some way shape or form.
The exception, which is ironic, is the Yanmar.
I have found parts from every make and model that you can't get parts for.
Doesn't matter who made it.
Yanmar is only one that has had a strong enough following to warrant anyone going out and getting aftermarket parts made for it.

BTI

 

[BTI]

As for the new model I'm actually a little disappointed.
It's not quite as impressive as I figured it would be.

As far as specs go.
32 hp-Not bad
1100 lb 3pt lift-a bit light
900lb loader-a bit light
9.9 GPM hydro pump-a bit lacking
1/4"ing valve on 3pt-go to the K*bota forum-They all HATE it
6.3 gal fuel tank-not impressive

Now before everyone jumps on me about "picking it apart",
I think Yanmar-the company-not the "in cooperation with" product is absolutely amazing and truly major innovators in the compact tractor realm.

I guess I was expecting something that would just BLOW AWAY everyone else.

BTI