New Truck time

[murphy1244]

I guess wants and needs have to come in play here so lets state my wants. 1.Half ton 2. Full size bed 3. Tow about 5k 4. Decent gas mileage

5. Quit interior

 

[Diamondpilot]

I guess wants and needs have to come in play here so lets state my wants. 1.Half ton 2. Full size bed 3. Tow about 5k 4. Decent gas mileage

5. Quit interior

Any can do that. Get out and drive them all including that Eco Boost.

Chris

 

[daugen]

Any can do that.
The challenge with fuel economy is how often you tow. If you have a small trailer and pull a zero turn or light machinery just locally, you might even get by with a V6 if fuel mileage is more of a priority. But I think most of us would either want
a small V8 or the Ecoboost to get the torque needed. And remember, fuel mileage is relative. I got 16 with my V6 Nissan Frontier, the Ecoboost gets 15-16 from what I've read, and my guzzler Suburban with a 6.0 gets 12.
I think 20mpg trucks are coming but if you want to tow, I don't think they are here yet. The Ecoboost is probably the best compromise now but I think real world gas mileage is lower than the ads. But if you want to pull one of your tractors around, you need a whole lot more than 5K towing with implements attached and trailer weight, plus giving you some capacity left for safety.

 

[Reyer Farms]

I guess wants and needs have to come in play here so lets state my wants. 1.Half ton 2. Full size bed 3. Tow about 5k 4. Decent gas mileage

5. Quit interior

F150 with 3.7 v6 better mpg than ecoboost. Still makes decent power but a lot higher rpm's. Just a option. I think any full size will meet your towing requirement. It just A truck about like a haircut don't sweat it you gonna need another one sooner or later.

 

[johnk]

Ford v-10.......

 

[wawajake]

I am getting a little tired about the exaggeration that Ford did not take or push for bailout money. They just asked for their 5.9 billion in January 2009 under other auspices. They all needed it, they all make pretty good trucks. I have had three Dodges in 20 years and I love them. Even the present 2008 Dodge 1500 Hemi has engine that drops down to four cylinders like GM has now too.
So test drive them all and maybe pick the best dealer customer service.

FactCheck.org : Ford Motor Co. Does U-turn on Bailouts

 

[MIKE R]

I have heard that the Eco boosts get horrible efficency when towing a good load. If the engine is so good why isn't it a option on their F250. For a comuter truck it might be good but working it is a different story. I stay away from Toyotas.

 

[murphy1244]

Ford v-10.......

A v-10 Really, Gets about 5 miles to the gallon. No thanks.

 

[CJONE]

IMHO / experience. 1st for me would be the F-150, even our new v-8 are averaging 16-17. We have 6 of them so it is not just a 1 off. Our older f-150's are in the 14-15 average like the 08 crew cab that I drive. The next would be the Toyotas Average mileage is a little less than the f-150 but all the owners [my customers] that I talk to love them. Very good build quality, I have been impressed with the ones I have drove. The Dodge would be next, nice truck but I can't give you any real world fuel mileage ##. The GM has been just a bit better than the Fords in fuel mileage, but the interiors are junk, wind noise, stuff falling apart and some of my major customers getting stiffed by them takes them off my list. I will not pay twice for a truck. CJ

 

[CJONE]

I have heard that the Eco boosts get horrible efficency when towing a good load. If the engine is so good why isn't it a option on their F250. For a comuter truck it might be good but working it is a different story. I stay away from Toyotas.

With Ford offering the bigger v-8's and the diesel in the F-250's it is not really needed but I would look real hard at one if it was. I don't tow above 14000 any more so really don't need a bigger engine. Most report 11-13 towing with the eco boost. I would be really happy with that. That is about 2-3 better than my 5.4 towing. CJ

 

[bdeboer]

I would think at 5000 lbs towing any of the 1/2 tons with tow package would be more than enough truck. Although I would prefer a 3/4 ton for stability if the 5000 lb load is a travel trailer. I have good luck with 5.3L GM trucks since 1999 although I haven't owned one newer than a 2005 which I still have. Also have a 2008 Duramax. Today though I would look hard at the Dodge in our area as the dealers seem to be able to discount 4-5K at least on 2012 trucks more than what I am seeing on GM-Ford-Toyota.

 

[nybirdman]

I would do some reading on the Eco-Boost,they have their problems.If it was me buying a Ford it would be the V-8.The new Dodges (2013) are worth a look.I have owned all GM and had good luck.Most people can get by with a half ton.With the price ,cost of a diesel I don't believe they are worth it unless you are going to work it hard.

 

[mikehaugen]

around here, the rebates at the right time of year are usually around 10k advertised. Possibly more with negotiation.

 

[johnk]

A v-10 Really, Gets about 5 miles to the gallon. No thanks.

I get 13.5 on the highway which is great for a 7800 pound truck. Eat your heart out...:laughing:

 

[murphy1244]

I get 13.5 on the highway which is great for a 7800 pound truck. Eat your heart out...:laughing:

My 95 Chevy 1500 WT with 6 banger gets 24 MPG.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I have heard that the Eco boosts get horrible efficency when towing a good load. If the engine is so good why isn't it a option on their F250. For a comuter truck it might be good but working it is a different story. I stay away from Toyotas.

Not true. My father has a 4x4 with 3.73 gears and I lined up a job to tow identical tandem box trailers 250 miles. I used my 08 Nissan Titan and got about 9mpg. He got nearly 13. His fuel cost were about $75 round trip and mine was well over $100.

Chris

 

[MIKE R]

Not true. My father has a 4x4 with 3.73 gears and I lined up a job to tow identical tandem box trailers 250 miles. I used my 08 Nissan Titan and got about 9mpg. He got nearly 13. His fuel cost were about $75 round trip and mine was well over $100.

Chris

How do they compare not pulling any thing?

 

[timswi]

A v-10 Really, Gets about 5 miles to the gallon. No thanks.

In a Class-C MH that's about what I get.

 

[dgl24087]

I have a 2005 Dodge and beat the absolute **** out of it daily and it has yet to let me down one time.

I see a lot of votes for the Ford Ecoboost. I am not a fan and apparently neither is Motor Trend.2013 Ram 1500 named Motor Trend Truck of the Year - National Auto Reviews | Examiner.com

F150 won it last year.

 

[Reyer Farms]

When I pull this my fuel mileage drops about 6-7 miles to the gallon. The truck normally gets 17-20 according to the screen in instrument panel. I checked it by hand twice and it was pretty close so I just go by it. The engine takes some getting used driving as it will give you loads of power but you it has a cost. I don't feel I'm " drinking the kool-aid on the ecoboost". I'm pretty objective, as this my first ford ever. I would like to know the problems they are having. I check occasionally, and have not found anything. I'm looking at 6.0 power stoke fail, duramax injectors fail,5.4 spark plugs, dodge transmission belts ( per service after we got new tranny 04 2500)need adjusting ever75k, and so on. I love trucks period but I don't live in a truck commercial. I love a diesel rumble but unless I start pulling 10000 + lbs a few hundred miles every week I will buy gas burners. My rough estimate but I'm sure someone has better info on a break even gas vs ...