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[jajiu]

I'm new to this thing, I have enjoyed reading the posts in the forums, but have not until now decided to join in. I've had a Kubota tractor (I'm on my 4th) since 1993. I love my newest, purchased in 2014, the L3560 HSTC. The cab makes it a pleasure to use in the winter, I'm warm inside (hate the cold), an in summer no bugs to eat me when working.
I'm looking to add a backhoe to my tractor and taking my time looking over all the options. Looking at all kinds of backhoes, 3ph and sub frame, self contained hydraulics and tractor supplied. Looking for a little advice. My Kubota dealer sells Woods as well as the Kubota line.

 

[nybirdman]

You want a sub-frame mounted back-hoe; more money but seems to be the way to go.

 

[jajiu]

Thanks, that's the way I am leaning, more secure and stable.

 

[mguitas]

:welcome:An there is nothing wrong with a selfcontained hydraulics system either, they work fine. I have one myself.

 

[jajiu]

I think I'd prefer a self contained unit and run off the PTO. Just not sure if the power is better one way or the other.

 

[dickfoster]

You want a sub-frame mounted back-hoe; more money but seems to be the way to go.

Yeah from what I've seen it is. Plus if you have any warranty a 3pt will make it go away. You're not as likely to snap your tractor in half with a sub frame model either. I think maybe the extra strength with the subframe on your tractor can't hurt in other ways either so it's not just for the backhoe. At least that's the way I look at it. You usually get what you pay for.

 

[jajiu]

I am going for a subframe, just not sure about the hydraulics, tractor supplied or self contained run off the PTO. Which has more power, or are they both the same?

 

[TBN Support]

Thanks for joining the forum!

:welcome:

I'm going to move your thread on over to the Kubota section.

 

[mguitas]

I am going for a subframe, just not sure about the hydraulics, tractor supplied or self contained run off the PTO. Which has more power, or are they both the same?

Self contained will have plenty of power.

 

[jajiu]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I'll post a picture when I finally do get one.

 

[rbargeron]

Picking the right backhoe for a cab tractor can be tricky. Most cabs are not designed to accommodate a rear-facing bh seat. Some subframes extend the BH out for clearance, making the tractor back-heavy.

In my opinion a cab adds considerable stiffness to a tractor and a 3-point backhoe isn't automatically a structural threat to the machine. As always reasonable operation is key. Mounting and removing the BH is quicker/easier with a subframe type.

BH digging force is the same with internal or external hydraulics. External hydraulics offer shorter cycle time (faster digging speed). For the occasional user speed isn't a big deal. Take care, Dick B

 

[jajiu]

Great advice, thanks Dick.