Tires New tires for my PT

[woodlandfarms]

Carl,

I have purchased rims and tires off of Ebay, and I believe that Ditch Witch wheels will fit. I also purchased some from the local flea market vendor. I also had some made up at the local wheel and tire plant. I wold suggest no tubes and about a half gal of Slime or equivalent.

Rims for the 1850 online? I am alll over that. I you see a link, let me know

I have no choice on the tubes. I have used Ultra Seal (Did you know it takes 5 gallons to do an 1850?) Punctures are not really my problem, it is broken valve stems and junk into the rim...

 

[BobRip]

Bob,

Are you talking about machine rollover, or tire roll off? I purchased 5 gal of some industrial tire sealer off Ebay, and have just a little bit left. You really don't know if it works, until you count all the nails and screws in the tires. The lugs on the bar tires keep a lot of the tread off the ground. 4 or 6 ply is good if you can find them.

J_J, I actually rolled the PT over on its side and the tire unseated from the rim. I had bought the ROP when I purchased my 422, so it was not all that bad. I did have to bring my jack out to lift it enough to push it back up right . I had to fix the tire in place. I lost some oil and gasoline and had to clean up the spill. Not to bad, but very embarassing. That Gempler super seal works great. Thanks for recommending it.

 

[J_J]

Carl,

Check out these guys. Wheels and tirs

12x8.5" 5 lug - Yard & Garden Tractor Wheel - Brand NEW - eBay (item 250310770193 end time Aug-13-09 20:54:13 PDT)

 

[woodlandfarms]

Thanks JJ. They might go on the 1850 but they are not the same style... Mine are SUPER deep (One slides of the wheel motor, the other sticks out) and they have a ring to keep them seperated. I think they are PT custom...

 

[SpringHollow]

Yes, I think PT makes them. You could possibly cut out the "hub" and weld it to the new rims.

He has Carlisle 26 x 12 x 12 tires, 6 ply:
26x12.00-12 6 ply Carliele TRU POWER - Ag Lug Tire - eBay (item 250351537919 end time Aug-30-09 21:57:28 PDT)

Ken

 

[ponytug]

I haven't been able to find a supplier. The closest that I found was a rim manufacturer that makes rims to spec. but the ones Ken found look really close- do you know the offset?

All the best,

Peter

Yes, I think PT makes them. You could possibly cut out the "hub" and weld it to the new rims.

He has Carlisle 26 x 12 x 12 tires, 6 ply:
26x12.00-12 6 ply Carliele TRU POWER - Ag Lug Tire - eBay (item 250351537919 end time Aug-30-09 21:57:28 PDT)

Ken

 

[J_J]

Thanks JJ. They might go on the 1850 but they are not the same style... Mine are SUPER deep (One slides of the wheel motor, the other sticks out) and they have a ring to keep them separated. I think they are PT custom...

Carl,

What is the offset on your rims. and do you use a spacer with the duals?

What is the center hole width, and spacing on the lug holes.

As I said before, I had a company make up a set of rims for my 1445. The center was 3/8 steel, rather than stamped.

 

[ponytug]

JJ,

Who made the rims for you? Did you have duals made up or just replacements?

All the 18XX that I have seen don't use spacers...

All the best,

Peter

Carl,

What is the offset on your rims. and do you use a spacer with the duals?

What is the center hole width, and spacing on the lug holes.

As I said before, I had a company make up a set of rims for my 1445. The center was 3/8 steel, rather than stamped.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Here is a couple of pix of the rims. It is confusing, but yes, there is a spacer, about 2" thick... Its is easy to miss and tends to stick to one rim so when swapping. The rims are universal (Inside and outside the same).

 

[J_J]

JJ,

Who made the rims for you? Did you have duals made up or just replacements?

All the 18XX that I have seen don't use spacers...

All the best,

Peter

The people that made my rims are called Southern Wheel and Tire, located in Jacksonville, FL. They take an open center 12 in X 8.5, and weld in the center piece, off-set as to your plan. They can probably weld in the stem protectors. You all do know why there are tire stems on both sides of the rim

My wheels were replacements. I can not use duals on the 1445. Since then, I have found about 4 more wheels, and a bunch of lug tires.

If you have a Ditch-Witch place in your town, take a measuring device and measure their tires and rims.

 

[Bob999]

JJ,

All the 18XX that I have seen don't use spacers...

All the best,

Peter

I think that PT may have changed the design for the dual wheels at some point. On my 1845, purchased in 2002, the wheels have a large offset but also use a spacer between the two wheels. I think the spacer is several inches (a wheel would have to be removed to measure it)--it is not simply a plate.

 

[J_J]

This is who made my wheels. If you send me all the specs for the wheel you want, I will take it over there and get a quote. or you can call them, and maybe fax your data.

Southern Wheel & Rim
1044 N Lane Ave
Jacksonville, FL 32201
(904) 786-7542

 

[J_J]

I think that PT may have changed the design for the dual wheels at some point. On my 1845, purchased in 2002, the wheels have a large offset but also use a spacer between the two wheels. I think the spacer is several inches (a wheel would have to be removed to measure it)--it is not simply a plate.

I think the only way you can get by is with a wheel similar to the bud wheels like on my box van, those go on the hub face to face. On the kind of wheels that we use, you have to have a spacer, because the center plate can not bolt up face to face. Therefore, the spacer.

 

[J_J]

This guy carries tires, wheels , and spacers on Ebay.

eBay Store - ATV TIRES PLUS: TIRE WHEEL KITS, ITP MUD LITE, ATV RIMS

 

[J_J]

I have been collecting these over the years. Some of them are Ditch Witch tires and rims.

 

[wasabi]

I thought I should post this here as it is directly related...

I've identified rims and hardware necessary to dualie up my PT 2445 to slope mower...

Now I'm looking into buying and mounting eight 26 x 12 x 12 tubeless lug tires, six ply or better. One question that has come up is to (glycol) load or not to load... thoughts?

 

[J_J]

I would say no, as they are easier to plug when dry. Although I would add Gemplers Bullet Proof to each tire.

 

[woodlandfarms]

For me, my problem with the dualies are as follows...

Valve Stems broken off constantly

Debris jammed between the tires, which can cause the debris to jam the rims.

Lower inflation for severe slopes can cause tire flatness.

I have gemplers, but honesly my problems are bigger than what gemplers can fix...

Can you post info on the tires and rims you have found?

 

[wasabi]

I'm planning to get adapters, rims studs and lug nuts from Power Trac. I'm undoubtedly paying a bit more than what I might pay elsewhere but feel the scales balance with the straight talk, advice and fair treatment I've received. I'm still pondering this equation:

eight 26 12 12 (unloaded) 6 ply lug tires - including mounting = $ 1050
eight rims, four extensions, twenty studs & lug nuts from PT = $ 1350
T3409 72" rough cut mower with T-12 plate = $ 2300
Unanswered questions as to tilt seat arragnement (Estimate) = $ 250

TOTAL to convert PT2445 to dualie equiped 72" slope mower = $ 4950

I'm thinking of spot welding stubs of 3" pipe around valve stems. Tubes or no tubes?

 

[woodlandfarms]

I'm thinking of spot welding stubs of 3" pipe around valve stems. Tubes or no tubes?

Is a 72" mower wide enough? I would think you might need the larger mower.

Just FYI, the welding of the stubs for me was a bit of pickle. You have to cut and play wit the pipe covering quite a bit. Because the rims PT sells place the valve stem in an awkward position, so the stub you use has to be short, cut at odd angles to allow you to fill up the tire and not have impact with either the body of the tractor OR the wheel motor (The wheel motor was my downfall).

And that brings up a point. Make sure you test fit your wheel over your wheel motor before you weld. It is faily tight tolerance on my PT.

Finally, I have gone back to tubes. It has reduced my flats, but it has also increased the cost of them getting repaired (I still get them).

My land is in bad shape, it was logged, and everything was left to lay on the ground, so driving around you pick stuff up all the time. Also my rims are pretty hashed and I think due to how the lips of the rims have been bent they "attract" damage.