New LS Sub-Compact

ThirdMan · May 1, 2017

davidvercher said:
Not to jump brands, but I use to own a Kioti CS2410. Looks very similar to the LS. I would compare specs on it as well.

CS Series | Kioti Tractors

It was a fine little tractor.

Thanks for the tip. How was the build quality on the CS2410? The Kioti dealer is 52 miles from me vs 15 for LS.

LS Tractor Owner · May 1, 2017

Proud owner of a new MT125h, and to answer some of the questions previously asked, the loader does not have a quick attach skid steer type bucket on the loader. It is a quick attach loader similar to JD 1 family, including the support legs to hold it up in place. I bought the tractor from Legacy Tractor in Ft Collins, CO. Price paid for T, L, B, and 9" post hole digger was $16,900 after $6000 rebate ( didn't even know about the rebate until after sale paperwork was done). I bought this tractor sight unseen, only viewing on the LS site. I am not disappointed, rather very impressed with the quality, power, and standard features that were extra or not even available on the other brands. I was comparing JD, Massey, Mahindra, and Kioti, 22 hp models. They were no where near the price ( much higher ). Plus the LS is a 25 hp..

LS Tractor Owner · May 1, 2017

As per the owners manual for the LL1100 loader: " lift capacity to maximum height at pivot point: 1005 lbs (457 kg). " breakout force at pivot point: 2079 lbs (945 kg)." If anybody has other spec questions, just ask.

ThirdMan · May 1, 2017

LS mt125 owner said:
Proud owner of a new MT125h, and to answer some of the questions previously asked, the loader does not have a quick attach skid steer type bucket on the loader. It is a quick attach loader similar to JD 1 family, including the support legs to hold it up in place. I bought the tractor from Legacy Tractor in Ft Collins, CO. Price paid for T, L, B, and 9" post hole digger was $16,900 after $6000 rebate ( didn't even know about the rebate until after sale paperwork was done). I bought this tractor sight unseen, only viewing on the LS site. I am not disappointed, rather very impressed with the quality, power, and standard features that were extra or not even available on the other brands. I was comparing JD, Massey, Mahindra, and Kioti, 22 hp models. They were no where near the price ( much higher ). Plus the LS is a 25 hp..

Thank you for the info! Of course we want pictures! I plan on buying this week when the MMM comes in to the dealer. Is there a breakdown on that rebate for the whole package? The quote from my dealer indicated a $750 rebate on the backhoe.

LS Tractor Owner · May 1, 2017

I didn't even know about the rebate until I saw it discounting the price on the sales paperwork. There was no break down, just "rebate $6000". Give Gary a call at Legacy Tractor @ (970) 482-4803, maybe he can give you a breakdown or maybe a price quote you can take to your dealer. I thought I read somewhere when I was searching the net that LS was offering a free loader ( via rebate ) on the MT 1 series. Check out "Legacy Tractor" on the net, they have a few packages listed w/ prices.

LS Tractor Owner · May 1, 2017

LS mt125 owner said:
I didn't even know about the rebate until I saw it discounting the price on the sales paperwork. There was no break down, just "rebate $6000". Give Gary a call at Legacy Tractor @ (970) 482-4803, maybe he can give you a breakdown or maybe a price quote you can take to your dealer. I thought I read somewhere when I was searching the net that LS was offering a free loader ( via rebate ) on the MT 1 series. Check out "Legacy Tractor" on the net, they have a few packages listed w/ prices.

Also, I thought this deal was so good that I drove 1200 miles rt to pick it up!

cford36 · May 1, 2017

I also received the free loader on my 3135. I think that's an ongoing promotion for all of them.
Not sure if the exact details.

cford36 · May 1, 2017

LS mt125 owner said:
As per the owners manual for the LL1100 loader: " lift capacity to maximum height at pivot point: 1005 lbs (457 kg). " breakout force at pivot point: 2079 lbs (945 kg)." If anybody has other spec questions, just ask.

Did you ask your dealer what the disconnect is between the specs for the loader by itself and the lower specs for the same loader listed in tractor brochure and on the website.

davidvercher · May 2, 2017

The quality of the Kioti CS2410 was good in my opinion. I only had a problem with ground clearance, which I think is a problem on all subcompacts.

LS Tractor Owner · May 2, 2017

Here are a few pics...

ThirdMan · May 2, 2017

Looking good! Glad to hear you are enjoying your new equipment!

ThirdMan · May 14, 2017

I got mine delivered on Friday. $17,719 for tractor, loader, backhoe, and belly mower including delivery to my property (about 15 miles). I also had them bolt on some bucket hooks. They didn't have the mower manual (said that LS has not printed them yet), and said they would get it to me.

I have still not heard back from LS about the loader lift specs or how the SSQA will work. I think they are a bit overwhelmed as the dealer had to have the mower shipped in from another region.

LS Tractor Owner · May 15, 2017

ThirdMan said:
I got mine delivered on Friday. $17,719 for tractor, loader, backhoe, and belly mower including delivery to my property (about 15 miles). I also had them bolt on some bucket hooks. They didn't have the mower manual (said that LS has not printed them yet), and said they would get it to me.

I have still not heard back from LS about the loader lift specs or how the SSQA will work. I think they are a bit overwhelmed as the dealer had to have the mower shipped in from another region.
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Nice tractor! Unfortunately I did not get the mower (in hindsight, I should have). The loader comes off real easy, basically identical to a JD quick attach on the 1Family. I have about 20 hrs on mine already and I am very pleased about what this little tractor can do. I added a tooth bar on the bucket and made a big increase in the digging ability of the loader breaking up hard clay. Got it for $199 from " neat farms.com ". Enjoy your new toy!

DaveNJ · May 15, 2017

Pretty cool. Looks like a mini version of the xj2025 without ssqa. One question: does the backhoe mounting brackets interfere with mounting the belly mower (like on the XJ2025) or is the backhoe a different lighter duty mounting system?

ThirdMan · May 15, 2017

DaveNJ said:
Pretty cool. Looks like a mini version of the xj2025 without ssqa. One question: does the backhoe mounting brackets interfere with mounting the belly mower (like on the XJ2025) or is the backhoe a different lighter duty mounting system?

I have not taken off the backhoe yet. I removed the mower without too much difficulty, and will report back after I have remounted it.

DaveNJ · May 15, 2017

You can't have a belly mower and backhoe on at the same time with the XJ because of frame mounting of backhoe. Even with backhoe off, the frame mounting brackets would also have to be removed to install a belly mower. The MT looks like it has a different mounting system for backhoe.

ThirdMan · May 16, 2017

DaveNJ said:
You can't have a belly mower and backhoe on at the same time with the XJ because of frame mounting of backhoe. Even with backhoe off, the frame mounting brackets would also have to be removed to install a belly mower. The MT looks like it has a different mounting system for backhoe.

I got curious and tried to take some pictures of the backhoe connection point and underneath the middle. Should I cover the mid PTO in some way?

ThirdMan · May 26, 2017

This is my first tractor, so I am trying to get a handle on a lot of different aspects of it. I checked the transmission oil after a few hours and the stick was dry. I am going to the deal to pick up more oil in the morning to top it off. I took off the loader and backhoe and the wife enjoys mowing with it more

. It is stable on our hill by the road while mowing (I need an easy way to measure the incline), and she says it is doing just fine for her. I need to get more seat time!

I took the backhoe off according to the manual and left it set like a tripod with the stabilizers and bucket. Didn't think too much about it as I had watched similar backhoes removed on YouTube. A few days later I noticed that the main frame had sunk down to the ground. I should probably prop it on something to relive the hydraulic pressure and prevent it from dropping down on the ground. Getting it back on may be interesting.

I bought a grease gun and was doing a run down of all the zerks. Some of them were a bit tight to get the grease nozzle off, but I was able to wiggle it free. On the loader some of the zerks are recessed, and I got the grease nozzle stuck. I think it must be defective as I finally had to use a vise grip pliers and some leverage to get it off. I am going to look for a new nozzle at the farm store. I also spent too much time reading online and trying to understand the different types of grease and if the stuff my local stores carry would cause a problem with what the dealer had used. As far as I can tell the Lucas Oil x-tra heavy duty should be fine for everything.

Anyone use zerk caps on your equipment? Seems like it could be a pain go take them off each time, but it is also a pain to have to clean out dirt with a shop towel.

k0ua · May 26, 2017

ThirdMan said:
This is my first tractor, so I am trying to get a handle on a lot of different aspects of it. I checked the transmission oil after a few hours and the stick was dry. I am going to the deal to pick up more oil in the morning to top it off. I took off the loader and backhoe and the wife enjoys mowing with it more . It is stable on our hill by the road while mowing (I need an easy way to measure the incline), and she says it is doing just fine for her. I need to get more seat time!

I took the backhoe off according to the manual and left it set like a tripod with the stabilizers and bucket. Didn't think too much about it as I had watched similar backhoes removed on YouTube. A few days later I noticed that the main frame had sunk down to the ground. I should probably prop it on something to relive the hydraulic pressure and prevent it from dropping down on the ground. Getting it back on may be interesting.

I bought a grease gun and was doing a run down of all the zerks. Some of them were a bit tight to get the grease nozzle off, but I was able to wiggle it free. On the loader some of the zerks are recessed, and I got the grease nozzle stuck. I think it must be defective as I finally had to use a vise grip pliers and some leverage to get it off. I am going to look for a new nozzle at the farm store. I also spent too much time reading online and trying to understand the different types of grease and if the stuff my local stores carry would cause a problem with what the dealer had used. As far as I can tell the Lucas Oil x-tra heavy duty should be fine for everything.

Anyone use zerk caps on your equipment? Seems like it could be a pain go take them off each time, but it is also a pain to have to clean out dirt with a shop towel.

Remember grease gun nozzles are adjustable:. Loosen it a bit.

If you still have questions: please read this thread.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ase-gun-screwdriver.html?highlight=grease+gun

k0ua · May 26, 2017

Also don't forget they invented the Lock-n-Lube since that old grease gun thread was started back in 2011. There is another one also with a push pull type collet. Life goes on, and I use the locknlube now. It just speeds up the work.