New Kubota Tractor Purchase

[sawtooth]

Just something to think about but I just paid 44k for a M7060 with 12speed, canopy, cast wheels and loader. There are deals out there so go on tractor house and email all dealers within range. Most will offer free delivery within a few hours of your location. My local dealer wanted full list. I asked for a discount and he said that’s about all they could do which pissed me off. I’m in sales and have to discount my stuff so it’s just a thing for me now. Anyway, I
Like the M better as I’m not a fan of the small displacement engines. Just a personal preference as they tend to not have much low end oomph if you know what I mean. But it has no HST option so there’s that which if that’s what you need then it’s not a option for you. But the tilt wheel, 12speed, 16.5 gallon hydraulic flow, are nice. Good luck with your purchase and you will be happy with either of the choices your looking at.

 

[SDT]

I'm not sure enough emphasis has been put on the advantages of the HST+ transmission. Before, I was always singing the praises of shuttle and powershift - and I still prefer them for a mostly field work tractor or long distance to travel..... and they are decent for loader work too.

But for loader work a HST is simply nicer. And if you like a HST transmission, you are going to love the HST+. It has a lot of settings to customize the way that the HST works, and it gives the operator a huge instantaneous torque increase for tough jobs. You can gear up or down half a range with a movement of one finger. When it starts to lug, a movement of one finger is like someone just added 50% more HP.

Amazing advantage. What's even more amazing is nobody else has it.

HST+ doesn't seem to have a downside. I don't recall a single negative comment on it by anyone since it came out. Zero hiccups....& no problems. Ours is now in it's 15th year of mostly loader & BH work. We work it hard. It hasn't changed one little bit.

rScotty

Bingo, Scotty.

Would not wish to give up the HST+ in my L6060.

 

[SDT]

Mid PTO's are actually an option on the GL's.

https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/sales1source/l4060-detailed-specifications.pdf?sfvrsn=e4797e0e_2

Agreed.

Mid PTO optional on all models but internal shaft needed to easily install mid PTO standard on cab models but not ROPS models.

Accordingly, split needed to install mid PTO on ROPS models (unless optional internal shaft ordered at time of order from factory) but not on cab models.

 

[SDT]

Just something to think about but I just paid 44k for a M7060 with 12speed, canopy, cast wheels and loader. There are deals out there so go on tractor house and email all dealers within range. Most will offer free delivery within a few hours of your location. My local dealer wanted full list. I asked for a discount and he said that’s about all they could do which pissed me off. I’m in sales and have to discount my stuff so it’s just a thing for me now. Anyway, I
Like the M better as I’m not a fan of the small displacement engines. Just a personal preference as they tend to not have much low end oomph if you know what I mean. But it has no HST option so there’s that which if that’s what you need then it’s not a option for you. But the tilt wheel, 12speed, 16.5 gallon hydraulic flow, are nice. Good luck with your purchase and you will be happy with either of the choices your looking at.

Wish I lived where you live.

My dealer is 4 miles away and will not deliver a new tractor to me without charging $135/Hr from the time the driver picks up the truck keys to the time when he puts them back on the nail.

Next closest dealer, about 30 miles also charges for delivery of new equipment, though not quite as much.

 

[Citydude]

Only on open station.

Standard equipment on cab versions unless things have changed recently.

My 4060 with cab didn't. I bought it in 2019. If you look at the spec sheet I posted, the mid is optional for each GL model.

 

[sawtooth]

Wish I lived where you live.

My dealer is 4 miles away and will not deliver a new tractor to me without charging $135/Hr from the time the driver picks up the truck keys to the time when he puts them back on the nail.

Next closest dealer, about 30 miles also charges for delivery of new equipment, though not quite as much.

Apparently we are on the edge of going back to previous discounts etc. I think it depends on how many units or inventory is available at each given dealer. I emailed and called multiple dealers within a 200 mile range. The one I went with had 3 M7060’s and I think wanted to reduce inventory before year end. I actually thought he missed priced me. The trick is to find someone needing a sale at month or year end.

 

[SDT]

My 4060 with cab didn't. I bought it in 2019. If you look at the spec sheet I posted, the mid is optional for each GL model.

Sorry.

Needed internal shaft to mount mid PTO without splitting tractor to install such shaft standard equipment on cab versions but not ROPS models.

Accordingly, mid PTO easily installed after purchase on cab models but not ROPS models, which require split.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[JethroB]

I'm not sure enough emphasis has been put on the advantages of the HST+ transmission. Before, I was always singing the praises of shuttle and powershift - and I still prefer them for a mostly field work tractor or long distance to travel..... and they are decent for loader work too.

But for loader work a HST is simply nicer. And if you like a HST transmission, you are going to love the HST+. It has a lot of settings to customize the way that the HST works, and it gives the operator a huge instantaneous torque increase for tough jobs. You can gear up or down half a range with a movement of one finger. When it starts to lug, a movement of one finger is like someone just added 50% more HP.

Amazing advantage. What's even more amazing is nobody else has it.

HST+ doesn't seem to have a downside. I don't recall a single negative comment on it by anyone since it came out. Zero hiccups....& no problems. Ours is now in it's 15th year of mostly loader & BH work. We work it hard. It hasn't changed one little bit.

rScotty

The HST+ is what sold me when buying my first GL5460, an open station I use along tree lines. I liked it so much I recently bought a cabbed version for summer mowing. The Hi/Low at my fingertip is terrific. Pricy yes. I intended to sell the open station but it sure is very nice having two tractors so I’m dragging my feet selling it. Less implement switching for me. Plus the open air on nice days.

Note: I got 15% off of MSRP in 2018 on the first one, only 10% recently on the second with both from the same dealer & salesman. He said it was basically supply & demand.

 

[LD1]

Don’t minimize those larger front tires. They add more stability on rough ground, and especially for FEL work.

Not minimizing them at all. Don't know if stability is the right word here.....but larger front tires ride smoother on rough ground.

Just something to think about but I just paid 44k for a M7060 with 12speed, canopy, cast wheels and loader. There are deals out there so go on tractor house and email all dealers within range. Most will offer free delivery within a few hours of your location. My local dealer wanted full list. I asked for a discount and he said that’s about all they could do which pissed me off. I’m in sales and have to discount my stuff so it’s just a thing for me now. Anyway, I
Like the M better as I’m not a fan of the small displacement engines. Just a personal preference as they tend to not have much low end oomph if you know what I mean. But it has no HST option so there’s that which if that’s what you need then it’s not a option for you. But the tilt wheel, 12speed, 16.5 gallon hydraulic flow, are nice. Good luck with your purchase and you will be happy with either of the choices your looking at.

HST is big for some. I'm one of them.

Being able to have my wife of 12year old boy operate the tractor with confidence is nice.

I don't have to climb on and off the tractor after moving 30' at a time when mulching trees, and I can let my son plow the garden. And for bushhogging....nothing better.

I have said dozens of times before....if Kubota would put a HST in the smaller M's, like the 5660, 6060, and 7060....I'd be first inline to buy. I want them taller front tires for smoother riding

 

[4570Man]

Wish I lived where you live.

My dealer is 4 miles away and will not deliver a new tractor to me without charging $135/Hr from the time the driver picks up the truck keys to the time when he puts them back on the nail.

Next closest dealer, about 30 miles also charges for delivery of new equipment, though not quite as much.

My dealer probably has a million dollars in delivery trucks sitting on his lot. I assume he probably charges to pick up something for service work but new sales get delivered for free.

 

[sawtooth]

You are so right. I got the bigger radial tire upgrade on my M7060. Man are they smooth. Like a Cadillac compared to my other tractors.

 

[sawtooth]

My dealer probably has a million dollars in delivery trucks sitting on his lot. I assume he probably charges to pick up something for service work but new sales get delivered for free.

Yep a lot of dealers offer free delivery but you have to push some of them a bit. I’m sure service visits do cost though.

 

[LD1]

Wish I lived where you live.

My dealer is 4 miles away and will not deliver a new tractor to me without charging $135/Hr from the time the driver picks up the truck keys to the time when he puts them back on the nail.

Next closest dealer, about 30 miles also charges for delivery of new equipment, though not quite as much.

Its all in negotiations.....

Would you feel better if he charged you ~$300-$400 more for the tractor so he can mark it on paper as "free" delivery?

No one is delivering free. The trucks, trailers, and fuel all cost money. Its all being paid for by the business, which is in business to MAKE money.

Dealers that have "free" delivery are just masking it in their prices. Dealers that "charge" are just itemizing it for you so you know where your money is going.

Those who like to haggle and get the bottom dollar price....go to a dealer that has "free" deliver and get the best price you can. After that, I bet if you declined the "free" delivery and said you'd pick it up.....99% chance you can get another couple hundred bucks knocked off

 

[SDT]

Its all in negotiations.....

Would you feel better if he charged you ~$300-$400 more for the tractor so he can mark it on paper as "free" delivery?

No one is delivering free. The trucks, trailers, and fuel all cost money. Its all being paid for by the business, which is in business to MAKE money.

Dealers that have "free" delivery are just masking it in their prices. Dealers that "charge" are just itemizing it for you so you know where your money is going.

Those who like to haggle and get the bottom dollar price....go to a dealer that has "free" deliver and get the best price you can. After that, I bet if you declined the "free" delivery and said you'd pick it up.....99% chance you can get another couple hundred bucks knocked off

Bingo.

Absolutely no negotiation regarding delivery from my dealer.

Yes, they will re-write invoice so as to hide delivery within PDI, etc., but profit center billing demands shop gets paid for delivery.

Well aware that all businesses are such so as to make money for the owners.

As recently as 7-10 years ago, this was not the case but so-called profit centers changed the paradigm.

Been negotiating for many decades.

 

[SDT]

Sounds like your dealer is just trying to push what they have on hand.....either that or they are ignorant about their own models.

The L6060 is actually HEAVIER, and has a STRONGER loader, and is LONGER than the MX. For all intents and purposes, the L6060 is the BIGGER tractor of the two.

But the differences are so minor. 100# heavier, less than 100# more lift capacity, and only about an inch longer.

There arent two more closely spec'd tractors on the market. In the real world, preformance would be as identical as one can espect. If the MX cant do something, neither can the L. IF the MX can do something, so can the L.

The two BIGGEST differences are
1. The GrandL is a luxury machine. The MX is basic. So I'd suggest you sit in and drive both. Then decide if the luxury us worth the premium $$$
2. The MX has larger front tires. This boggles my mind honestly. I dont understand why they dont put the larger tires on the larger GrandL's

Oftentimes, max front tire sizes are determined by interference issues with frame/FEL components at full lock and full axle oscillation.

Manufacturers do not wish to have warranty claims from outliers who choose option, adjustment preferences.

FWIW, during home PDI, I always check (and usually adjust) steering stops to achieve minimum steering radius. Of course, I do so after jacking up tractors and checking for interferences between frame/FEL, etc., at full lock and full axle oscillation. Nearly always, I am able to increase maximum steering lock, but there have been instances where interferences occurred with factory settings.

Who knows the interference issues with GL and MX tractors and whether Kubota has exhaustingly investigated all. Even if so, it costs $ to change front axle gearing, so Kubota may have declinied to do so even if larger front wheels/tires could be fitted to L6060 with modified gearing.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Wish I lived where you live.

My dealer is 4 miles away and will not deliver a new tractor to me without charging $135/Hr from the time the driver picks up the truck keys to the time when he puts them back on the nail.

Next closest dealer, about 30 miles also charges for delivery of new equipment, though not quite as much.

Any reason you can't simply put an SMV emblem on the tractor and drive it home? My Kubota dealer is also 4 miles away and that's what I do.

 

[SDT]

Any reason you can't simply put an SMV emblem on the tractor and drive it home? My Kubota dealer is also 4 miles away and that's what I do.

Could, but very dangerous on heavily traveled main roads.

Did drive 52 8N to/from a couple of years ago on back roads.

With Sherman combo in 4th/Hi range, tractor would go a bit over 20 MPH. Not too dangerous aside from half mile or so between back road connection and dealer on 4 lane. Had friend follow me in car with flashers on and he said that he would not do so again.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I have both an MX5800 HST and an L6060 HSTC. Both are great tractors and have their strengths & weaknesses but I wouldn't be without either one. Based on my experience, this is all I can add to the good info already posted here.

I looked at the M series before buying and the added HP would have been nice but I'm too addicted to the advantages of the HST trans. I do a lot of loader work with bucket & forks in tight spaces and the HST is a real time saver.

Without doubt, the MX is a slightly "stronger" machine. The LA1065 FEL will lift a bit more than the LA1055 on the L6060 and I use it for all my earthwork. I much prefer the "iron on iron" feel of the LA1065 joystick. The cable actuated LA1055 does not have a positive feel, likely due to a minute amount of cable stretch. I find it more difficult to feather than the LA1065. I complained to the dealer about it but they claim this is normal. They checked over the mechanism and it's up to spec.

The L6060 is a heavier machine but it doesn't have the raw pulling power of the MX. (R14's on both) I don't know for sure but it may have something to do with the larger front tires on the MX. I have a BH92 hoe which I use on both tractors and, for some reason, the hoe throws around the L6060 more than the MX even though the L6060 is heavier. Weird.

To me, the HST+ transmission on the L6060 alone makes it worth the extra $$. It's like having 6 gear ranges instead of 3. I can leave the trans in high gear most of the time and just switch on the fly between H and L range on slopes. I have to stop and drop a gear on the MX. The air ride seat, auto throttle advance, stall guard, inteli panel and other doo dads are just icing on the cake. I use the cabbed L6060 for inclement weather work like plowing in zero degree temps and mowing when it's 90+. The MX gets the nod for everything else.

I also prefer the old style treddle on the MX over the newer design on the L6060. This is a minor issue though and just requires some adjustment to my operating style when I use either machine.

Keep in mind these are just my observations based on the way I use the tractors and my personal preferences. Others may use their machines differently and will likely have other opinions.

 

[scootr]

I have both an MX5800 HST and an L6060 HSTC. Both are great tractors and have their strengths & weaknesses but I wouldn't be without either one. Based on my experience, this is all I can add to the good info already posted here.

I looked at the M series before buying and the added HP would have been nice but I'm too addicted to the advantages of the HST trans. I do a lot of loader work with bucket & forks in tight spaces and the HST is a real time saver.

Without doubt, the MX is a slightly "stronger" machine. The LA1065 FEL will lift a bit more than the LA1055 on the L6060 and I use it for all my earthwork. I much prefer the "iron on iron" feel of the LA1065 joystick. The cable actuated LA1055 does not have a positive feel, likely due to a minute amount of cable stretch. I find it more difficult to feather than the LA1065. I complained to the dealer about it but they claim this is normal. They checked over the mechanism and it's up to spec.

The L6060 is a heavier machine but it doesn't have the raw pulling power of the MX. (R14's on both) I don't know for sure but it may have something to do with the larger front tires on the MX. I have a BH92 hoe which I use on both tractors and, for some reason, the hoe throws around the L6060 more than the MX even though the L6060 is heavier. Weird.

To me, the HST+ transmission on the L6060 alone makes it worth the extra $$. It's like having 6 gear ranges instead of 3. I can leave the trans in high gear most of the time and just switch on the fly between H and L range on slopes. I have to stop and drop a gear on the MX. The air ride seat, auto throttle advance, stall guard, inteli panel and other doo dads are just icing on the cake. I use the cabbed L6060 for inclement weather work like plowing in zero degree temps and mowing when it's 90+. The MX gets the nod for everything else.

I also prefer the old style treddle on the MX over the newer design on the L6060. This is a minor issue though and just requires some adjustment to my operating style when I use either machine.

Keep in mind these are just my observations based on the way I use the tractors and my personal preferences. Others may use their machines differently and will likely have other opinions.

Well said from a man who knows Kubota tractors.

 

[LD1]

I have both an MX5800 HST and an L6060 HSTC. Both are great tractors and have their strengths & weaknesses but I wouldn't be without either one. Based on my experience, this is all I can add to the good info already posted here.

I looked at the M series before buying and the added HP would have been nice but I'm too addicted to the advantages of the HST trans. I do a lot of loader work with bucket & forks in tight spaces and the HST is a real time saver.

Without doubt, the MX is a slightly "stronger" machine. The LA1065 FEL will lift a bit more than the LA1055 on the L6060 and I use it for all my earthwork. I much prefer the "iron on iron" feel of the LA1065 joystick. The cable actuated LA1055 does not have a positive feel, likely due to a minute amount of cable stretch. I find it more difficult to feather than the LA1065. I complained to the dealer about it but they claim this is normal. They checked over the mechanism and it's up to spec.

The L6060 is a heavier machine but it doesn't have the raw pulling power of the MX. (R14's on both) I don't know for sure but it may have something to do with the larger front tires on the MX. I have a BH92 hoe which I use on both tractors and, for some reason, the hoe throws around the L6060 more than the MX even though the L6060 is heavier. Weird.

To me, the HST+ transmission on the L6060 alone makes it worth the extra $$. It's like having 6 gear ranges instead of 3. I can leave the trans in high gear most of the time and just switch on the fly between H and L range on slopes. I have to stop and drop a gear on the MX. The air ride seat, auto throttle advance, stall guard, inteli panel and other doo dads are just icing on the cake. I use the cabbed L6060 for inclement weather work like plowing in zero degree temps and mowing when it's 90+. The MX gets the nod for everything else.

I also prefer the old style treddle on the MX over the newer design on the L6060. This is a minor issue though and just requires some adjustment to my operating style when I use either machine.

Keep in mind these are just my observations based on the way I use the tractors and my personal preferences. Others may use their machines differently and will likely have other opinions.

Surprised the MX feels strong and better with the hoe. Specs would lead one to believe the slight advantage would lean toward the L