New haying equipment

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The 6R series are sweet tractors. Sounds like you have a very good dealer.
 
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The 6R series are sweet tractors. Sounds like you have a very good dealer.

Yes I do (I just hope it stays this way after the sales), he put me in the drivers seat of a 6125R and I was massively in love with it, he did some research and found out I massively overpaid for my 5115M, he feels really bad and is doing everything he can to get me the 6125R. He is taking the 5115M on trade but he ended up losing money cause of how much I was over charged. Hopefully no later than Monday I will be owning it.
 

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/ New haying equipment #23  
If he is taking care of you this well now I'm sure he will after the sale too. Awesome looking tractor. Are you going to have them widen the rears on this one before it's delivered? We will need lots of pictures inside and out.
 
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If he is taking care of you this well now I'm sure he will after the sale too. Awesome looking tractor. Are you going to have them widen the rears on this one before it's delivered? We will need lots of pictures inside and out.

Im hoping so, he's been phenomenal so far, thank you, paperwork goes in today and hopefully hear back before the day is done. The rears inside to inside is 5' already so I think that's plenty for haying. I will be taking lots of pics for sure
 
/ New haying equipment #26  
Wow. I am assuming you are one of the lucky Innisfail lottery winners, and I thought the 5115M was way more tractor then you needed for less then 50 acres... Sorry, but somebody had to say it!
 
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Wow. I am assuming you are one of the lucky Innisfail lottery winners, and I thought the 5115M was way more tractor then you needed for less then 50 acres... Sorry, but somebody had to say it!

I wish I was, lol. Since I started custom baling the 6125R only costs $40,000 more than the 5115M. If it was just my 50 acres it would be massive overkill but now I'm doing well over 100 acres (not sure of exact amount cause I'm still doing the calculations but it will be around 500 acres.)
 
/ New haying equipment #29  
What am I missing? You went from a BX to a utility machine. Is this a biz venture? How were you overcharged by the dealer without his knowledge?
Did you buy the M from another dealer? Seems like alot of capitol to throw into bailing without already being in the biz. Great equipment though.

Matt
 
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What am I missing? You went from a BX to a utility machine. Is this a biz venture? How were you overcharged by the dealer without his knowledge? Did you buy the M from another dealer? Seems like alot of capitol to throw into bailing without already being in the biz. Great equipment though. Matt

Yes I went from a BX2660 to a 5115M. The dealer that I am dealing with now sells the 5115M for $88,000 the dealer I bought it from charged me $120,000 (same features and everything.) mine has had 10 warranty calls in the first month and they are now charging me for work that John Deere warranties. The new dealer said this is not uncommon for the old dealer to overcharge clients and said they have had an increase in sales due to people coming from the old dealer upset with their purchase (either wrong machine or overpriced.)

The 6125R actually came from my old dealership cause they sold it to a guy and sent him on his way without showing him how to operate it (lots of touch screen commands and features.) he got frustrated with it and traded it in with my new dealer for a simpler tractor. He told me it is not much more and cause of my situation he can give me a good deal on it (plus he will actually come out and show me all the features as I need to use them.) he wouldn't have suggested that big of tractor if it was just me on my land but cause I am doing that much more he said it should last me for all of that plus any expansions I would want to do. It is a lot of money and a lot of bells and whistles but I see it as an investment as I plan on continuing to grow (rent some land and grow more hay) the guy I'm doing custom baling for has me in a contract to do his hay for the next 5 years so I have work the whole time I am paying it all off.

Thank you, I think it's a sweet set up too.
 
/ New haying equipment #31  
he feels really bad and is doing everything he can to get me the 6125R. He is taking the 5115M on trade but he ended up losing money cause of how much I was over charged .

Why would he loose money on a deal? He's coming out money ahead somewhere, unless he's just a super nice guy that won't be in business long.

Very nice equipment.
 
/ New haying equipment #32  
If you are serious about doing contract hay you should keep the 5M and buy another tractor. 500 acres of hay is a bit much for one tractor, even if its.a huge super tractor. A contract hay guy in my area uses a 7R mowing with triples and usually two smaller tractors to ted rake and bale 1000 acres a year, he also uses the same tractors on his own 1000 acres of grain. Last time I talked to him he was mostly baling silage.
 
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Yes I went from a BX2660 to a 5115M. The dealer that I am dealing with now sells the 5115M for $88,000 the dealer I bought it from charged me $120,000 (same features and everything.) mine has had 10 warranty calls in the first month and they are now charging me for work that John Deere warranties. .

I seriously doubt it's the selling dealers fault that you paid $120,000 for an $88,000 tractor. I always heard buyer be aware!! I've been in the custom hay baling business since '87 and I'd hate to think of having to repay new equipment prices of today @ $22 per rd bale that I charge. I think JD better watch out as I'm hearing of 468 balers getting holes worn in the side sheets in less than 20,000 bales.
 
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Why would he loose money on a deal? He's coming out money ahead somewhere, unless he's just a super nice guy that won't be in business long.

Very nice equipment.

He is a super nice guy, he is making money on my other purchases though and I will be seeing him for more equipment.

If you are serious about doing contract hay you should keep the 5M and buy another tractor. 500 acres of hay is a bit much for one tractor, even if its.a huge super tractor. A contract hay guy in my area uses a 7R mowing with triples and usually two smaller tractors to ted rake and bale 1000 acres a year, he also uses the same tractors on his own 1000 acres of grain. Last time I talked to him he was mostly baling silage.

I would like to keep both tractors but funding just don't allow me to buy two at the moment.

I seriously doubt it's the selling dealers fault that you paid $120,000 for an $88,000 tractor. I always heard buyer be aware!! I've been in the custom hay baling business since '87 and I'd hate to think of having to repay new equipment prices of today @ $22 per rd bale that I charge. I think JD better watch out as I'm hearing of 468 balers getting holes worn in the side sheets in less than 20,000 bales.

$22/round bale?????? I wanna live where you are, the going rate around here is $11/round bale. I do take some blame in the pricing cause I should have looked into it more instead of trusting him cause he was being a nice guy, he showed me the price on his JD builder website and said dropped the price lower than it's suggested price by quite a bit so I thought I was getting a sweet deal, now I use my JD builder every time to check which always gives a different price than the dealers (with all the same accessories and options.)

What baler are you running?

D.

I'm using a 568 round baler.

You purchased an 100k tractor with shopping around?

Matt

The 5115M I paid $120k the 6125R I will pay $140k
 
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corey9212
$22 is for cutting,raking & baling. In my old age I have some difficulty thinking about paying $140,000 for a tractor by doing custom hay baling. I find it hard to believe that a JD rd baler with all the bells & whistles cost $40,000. I wish you the best.
 
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corey9212
$22 is for cutting,raking & baling. In my old age I have some difficulty thinking about paying $140,000 for a tractor by doing custom hay baling. I find it hard to believe that a JD rd baler with all the bells & whistles cost $40,000. I wish you the best.

Here the $11 is for the same (cutting, raking and baling.) sorry you misunderstood me (my bad) the baler cost me $21,000 the upgrade from the 5115M tractor to a $6125R tractor is $40,000 more.
 
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here most custom balers are charging $25 to $27 to cut rake an bale for 4 by 6s.we paid 12 a bale for cutting an raking.to run a baling operation you really need 3 tractors.1 for the cutter 1 for rge rake an 1 for the baler.that way your not constantly hooking an unhooking equipment.we use a jx80 to pull the 567 baler.
 
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Here the $11 is for the same (cutting, raking and baling.) sorry you misunderstood me (my bad) the baler cost me $21,000 the upgrade from the 5115M tractor to a $6125R tractor is $40,000 more.


I can't imagine hoping to pay for that much dollar investment in equipment "before it's completely worn out" by only collecting $11 per bale for cutting,raking & baling. Not me Vern. I suppose the yield per acre is much greater than down here in Texas but I'd still be out. As I previously stated GOOD LUCK. When I stated $40K for rd baler I was referring to a NEW baler.
 

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