paulsharvey
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Kei trucks also have some practical use, but i wouldn't want to drive one as a primary vehicle.
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Then the MBAs and bean counters will take over and it'll go to hell in a year.
Too true.
Oaktree
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I don't know if it's the evil "MBAs & bean counters" who are to blame, but more than the real or perceived pressures of marketing.
Look what's happened to regular trucks over the past 25 years or so. Every automaker that makes a full size truck has an over-the-top model, they wouldn't have them if they didn't sell.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that many will kick the tires, and once the rush of early adopters subsides and the novelty wears off, sales will be weak. I just don't see many Americans going for something that spartan when for not much more you can get something like a Maverick or Santa Fe.
paulsharvey
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The very short, regular cab config, that's gonna rule it out for most people. Everyone says they wish truck makers still made a basic model, but then the Only buyers will be parts delivery at Autozone. Even most company trucks, they will atleast order extended cabs.
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That's why the key to this is that it HAS to be DIRT CHEAP. If it's not, just about ANYTHING is better. I think there is a market for a DIRT CHEAP electric vehicle to be used as a third or fourth beater.
paulsharvey
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So, if it really was dirt cheap, and with EV credits, and all, you got payments too $250/month; and insurance was cheap; i would consider it as an extra vehicle. Something you can leave a mess, lend to son, not get annoyed by deer corn spilled all over the seat.
You would need the total package cheap, not just payments. Major part of its utility is being street legal, so tag and insurance too.
For that kinda vehicle, as a 3rd, it really just needs AC and be street legal, and reliable.
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If they indeed end up costing only $20K and someone still needs to take out a loan for that, they probably shouldn't be buying one. Or anything for a while.
paulsharvey
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If I had to guess probably less than 5% of new car sales are cash sales.
Correction, 12-15% of new car sales are cash; but anyone in the market for a 20k vehicle is likely not going to have 20k sitting around. Edmunds. 2023, 15% cash buyers.
I would guess the cheaper the car, the less cash sales.
paulsharvey
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Kinda like the thing where cheap vehicles often don't hold up well, In part, because people buying the cheapest cars, also are Far more likely to skip PM services. Thats not to say some of the cheaper stuff isn't made cheap, but its also consumers playing a role.
Remember the Saturn line from GM. At one point, moms house looked like a Saturn dealership, I think there were 5 of them at one point; moms, step dad's, sisters, other sisters, and the old station wagon model, that was kinda the spair, not worth enough to sell/trade, but ran good. All of them ended up going 200k+; with regular oil changes; but Brandwide, they had a pretty mixed reputation. I think in large part to people not doing basic PM. Honestly, Geo, probably falls in the same group.
Remember the Saturn line from GM. At one point, moms house looked like a Saturn dealership, I think there were 5 of them at one point; moms, step dad's, sisters, other sisters, and the old station wagon model, that was kinda the spair, not worth enough to sell/trade, but ran good. All of them ended up going 200k+; with regular oil changes; but Brandwide, they had a pretty mixed reputation. I think in large part to people not doing basic PM. Honestly, Geo, probably falls in the same group.
