New 3050 CVT Update

[Jackfr]

If it's a 56 dollar option, why even offer the basic tranny? Am I missing something? Is there any reason you would go back to basic mode?

No I have no reason to go back to the basic mode and I don't even use all the features. I like the extra mid range and the anti stall. My biggest drive for getting it was the preset cruise control. The pre set only works in high range but I was able to set it at 3 mph so each time I go to spread in the rear field all I have to do is turn on the preset cruise and it goes right to 3mph when ever I'm spreading or if I send someone else to spread its all preset. That part works great as long as you read and understand the instructions/operation.

 

[Jackfr]

One thing I did learn early on is to always run the hand throttle up to 1500-2000 RPMs. It makes for much better foot pedal throttle response with less jerky motion.

Yes I found the same thing also helps the power steering problem I have

 

[WM75Guy]

The only time I use high range is for the preset cruise control which I have set at 3 MPH.

The pre set only works in high range but I was able to set it at 3 mph so each time I go to spread in the rear field all I have to do is turn on the preset cruise and it goes right to 3mph when ever I'm spreading or if I send someone else to spread its all preset.

You and I must be spreading the same stuff at 3 MPH. By chance do you have horses? :laughing:

 

[Jackfr]

You and I must be spreading the same stuff at 3 MPH. By chance do you have horses? :laughing:

Oh yes but that "stuff" does make the fields green in the spring and we haven't used/needed commercial fertilizer for many years.

The 3mph seems to be the best ground speed for spreading with the 2 millcreek spreaders we have.

 

[Utopia Texas]

So what's your favorite recipe for road apples?

 

[Jackfr]

Quick Update
New Holland is thankfully helping out and covering the cost of shipping the tractor back to the dealer again and providing a Loaner while it's there. It leaves on Thursday the area Service Rep is suppose to be there on Friday to help figure out what is going on. The intermittent problems continue, some of the latest are the beginning of last week while spreading in the rear field the pto caused a 5080 lockup I restarted the tractor and I had the cruise control screen stuck on the dash no hour meter etc. just the cruise control setup screen. then when trying to restart again to clear it I got no dash at all, nothing came on when I turned the switch to on for at least 5 seconds so couldn't start it, then it came up and restarted??? Since that day just minor problems with the pto and delays in shifting so I'm worried with the intermittent problems that when it gets to the controlled environment of the dealer it will be working fine they won't find anything wrong and they'll think I'm crazy. Hopefully they can find out what is causing the intermittent problems and get them fixed this time.

 

[Utopia Texas]

Hopefully NH will just gut the whole dash board and all computer components, replace with new parts, and be done with the situation. There is probably just one minute part that is internally damaged and causing all the intermittent problems. NH will save itself a lot of time and money with a wholesale change out rather than trying to piece meal parts one at a time, but then again I only ran 2 successful businesses for 42 years so what do I know......

 

[WM75Guy]

Sounds like they are trying to do the right thing. I would push for new parts instead of a software reflash. Time to go clean stalls and spread manure. It was 76 yesterday. Going to be fun today, temp already dropped from 62 at midnight to 43 with a cold rain. Fort Worth is already down to 30. Just waiting for the sleet to start.

 

[Jackfr]

Quick Update
The tractor was picked up one day earlier on Wednesday as the NH Service Rep was to be there on Thursday. The dealer dropped off a brand new 3050cvt as a loaner. The Loaner doesn't have any of the problems I've been experiencing with ours! The dealer recommended that I come and speak to the NH Service Rep in person, so Thursday I made the 6 hour round trip. Spoke at length to the Rep explaining to him the problems I was having with the transmission, pto, power steering etc. I returned but I didn't get back before the dealer closed for the day. I spoke to the Dealer yesterday morning and he reported that the NH Service Rep had authorized repairs so parts had been ordered including the cpu. power steering parts, etc. He told me they would know better on Monday a time frame on when it would return. NH and my Dealer have really stepped up on these problems so far, my thanks to them, hopefully when our tractor returns it operates as well as the loaner does.

 

[Jackfr]

So what's your favorite recipe for road apples?

Do you have a good one??

It was 76 yesterday. .

I wish it was that warm here. I'm getting tired of the cold, snow and Ice. It's suppose to be in the 40's here today though.

 

[Hooked_on_HP]

If you are happy with the loaner see if you can make a deal with NH and the dealer so you can keep it.
Bill

 

[Jackfr]

If you are happy with the loaner see if you can make a deal with NH and the dealer so you can keep it.
Bill

I thought of that but it's a bare bones tractor. It would still have to return to add the 3 rear remotes and the front extra function remote, this one has none. It also needs a radio, rear wiper, tires loaded and deluxe trans upgrade. So I'm hoping when ours returns all is well. Third times a charm right?????

 

[Utopia Texas]

I wonder what the NH representative will say when you return the loaner with a extra 200 hours on the meter! I'd even use the loaner to go to church and the grocery store.....

 

[Jackfr]

Quick Update
The tractor returned a week ago but I wanted to run it a bit to see what happened. I've run it about 20 hours since it returned.
There have been no issues with the pto operation what so ever, it seems to work fine now.
There have been no issues with the transmission shifting delays or staying in forward, except it did lockup a few times when using the loader into the manure pile(concrete floor) while loading. I think this might be related to another self protection mode of the CVT Transmission (the NH Service Rep talked to me about) and 4x4, as it only happens when in 4x4 and on the concrete pad going into the pile to hard. If I use down pressure on the loader and lift the front end off the ground then shift from forward to reverse it releases. I'm curious as to what will happen when frost is out and I use it in the sand pit.
The power steering works ok until after it is run over an hour or so and the oil has heated up, then the gurgling /cavitation noise and steering stalling returns, even at 1500 rpm. The dealer had me check for loose suction lines to the pump and I found a few (possibly pulling air into the system???) and loose bolts on the power steering pump. That has seemed to help but I need to run it more after tightening them to know for sure.
I don't have the paperwork yet but they told me they replaced the Trans control unit, the key switch, two solenoids and the power steering (box/motor??), along with over filling trans with 3 gallons of Hydraulic oil (this was from the NH Service Rep).
I'll post back after I run it some more, right now I have to go get rid of more of that white stuff:thumbdown: I thought it was spring???

 

[Morroder]

Gents, got the CVT upgrade today. 30 minutes later was done. Did an hour of box blade work and I must say. WHAT a HUGE difference. Everything improves. Response and control is so much better. Why they even offer standard since it is a $60 upgrade is beyond me. Thanks again for pointing me down this path. I liked the tractor in basic. Think I will LOVE it now with enhanced features. Have yet to try anti stall or cruise but look forward to it.

I hope the anti stall helps with the tractor continuing to power forward when in engaged in loader work under power. Doubt it. But I'm getting used to that

 

[Utopia Texas]

I also do not know why NH doesn't offer the upgrade on all the CVT transmissions as standard. Have 3 ranges instead of 2 is a huge improvement and gives you much more choice depending on the job being done. Congratulations......enjoy!!!

 

[WM75Guy]

I agree, it should be standard. The Boomer 8N came standard with the 3 range, anti-stall, and cruise.

 

[Jackfr]

Quick Update

It's been 3 weeks now since our tractor came back and the tractor now has 207 hours on it. The PTO seems to be working ok. But the power steering is getting worse. It completely stops working sometimes while using forks to move equipment off our pallet storage racks. You have to climb the steering wheel to make it steer. I found small bubbles/foam on trans dip stick, so there is possibly a suction leak somewhere. The transmission is starting to act up again with long delays while shuttling form forward to reverse and there has been a snapping cracking noise from the transmission along with a jerking motion while backing. I talked to the dealer and he contacted the service rep asking him to contact me direct to try and figure out what is going on. I haven't heard back from him so the dealer suggested I call the 800 number again to help get things moving again. I contacted the NH 800 number and they said they would look into it again and get back to me on Monday or Tuesday.

The nightmare continues.

 

[Jackfr]

Gents, got the CVT upgrade today. 30 minutes later was done. Did an hour of box blade work and I must say. WHAT a HUGE difference. Everything improves. Response and control is so much better. Why they even offer standard since it is a $60 upgrade is beyond me. Thanks again for pointing me down this path. I liked the tractor in basic. Think I will LOVE it now with enhanced features. Have yet to try anti stall or cruise but look forward to it.

I hope the anti stall helps with the tractor continuing to power forward when in engaged in loader work under power. Doubt it. But I'm getting used to that

Morroder

I'm glad it has worked out great for you! I know while we had the loaner with the basic trans package I really missed the deluxe features. Did you end up installing the upgrade your self? I wish our tractor worked out as well as yours.

 

[Utopia Texas]

Quick Update

It's been 3 weeks now since our tractor came back and the tractor now has 207 hours on it. The PTO seems to be working ok. But the power steering is getting worse. It completely stops working sometimes while using forks to move equipment off our pallet storage racks. You have to climb the steering wheel to make it steer. I found small bubbles/foam on trans dip stick, so there is possibly a suction leak somewhere. The transmission is starting to act up again with long delays while shuttling form forward to reverse and there has been a snapping cracking noise from the transmission along with a jerking motion while backing. I talked to the dealer and he contacted the service rep asking him to contact me direct to try and figure out what is going on. I haven't heard back from him so the dealer suggested I call the 800 number again to help get things moving again. I contacted the NH 800 number and they said they would look into it again and get back to me on Monday or Tuesday.

The nightmare continues.

Is there a "lemon law" for tractors? I am not one to promote frivolous law suits but in your case this appears to be going too far.
These are not cheap tractors and one should expect better performance. Maybe a lawyer could suggest you getting a new unit that works.