New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine.

[RobertN]

Really tho, other than the pulleys and belts on front giving it away you'd be hard pressed to tell it's actually an engine, ridiculous, I wouldn't want to have to work on it for anything other than an oil change. Always blows my mind when you look at an old engine, take an old 225 slant 6, and compare it to that engineering nightmare:

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I wish we would have got the Hemi 6-Pack in the US. Chrysler Australia made good use of it after the Straight six project to replace the Slant-6 was stopped in the US.

 

[paulsharvey]

It has to be better than the Chevy baby duramax, with what, a rear of engine timing chain and water pump, or something rediccoulus like that, that involves an engine pull between 100-150k miles.

 

[Hay Dude]

It has to be better than the Chevy baby duramax, with what, a rear of engine timing chain and water pump, or something rediccoulus like that, that involves an engine pull between 100-150k miles.

I want one of those, but that is truly a crazy arrangement.

 

[mrmikey]

That’s a “performance” 2 barrel version. My ‘68 had a 1 barrel carb.

My ole Valiant had the one bbl carb also and a seized heat riser valve, (least it didn't rattle) You could always tell an experienced Dodge driver, he had at least one spare ballast resistor in the glove box, as well, you had to turn the radio off if they were forecasting rain.

It’s all to meet ever tightening government regulations

Which never ceases to amaze me, the more crap they add to an engine, the lower the mileage yet it's better for the environment seems awfully counter intuitive to me. Same as diesels having to sit doing absolutely nothing for who knows how long burning fuel to regen all the while the mileage drops.

 

[Hay Dude]

That’s a “performance” 2 barrel version. My ‘68 had a 1 barrel carb.

All this crap they put on isn’t because they want to. It’s all to meet ever tightening government regulations

Crazy. They just sit around and make more regulations.
When will they understand the suffering they cause.

 

[mrmikey]

It has to be better than the Chevy baby duramax, with what, a rear of engine timing chain and water pump, or something rediccoulus like that, that involves an engine pull between 100-150k miles.

That sounds like a nightmare. Almost as bad as the Tacoma (I think it was ) with the starter buried under the intake manifold.

 

[RayIN]

The HO version requires 91 octane.
A drawback to consider

Around me, 93 octane is approx. $1/G higher than 87 octane. Big drawback IMO.

 

[ericm979]

It has to be better than the Chevy baby duramax, with what, a rear of engine timing chain and water pump, or something rediccoulus like that, that involves an engine pull between 100-150k miles.

It's the oil pump drive belt. They replace it by removing the transmission to get into the back of the engine, which stays in place. The 2022 and later have a longer service interval- 200k miles. The belt's the same as the earlier one with 150k mile service intervals.

It's like $350-400 in parts but a lot of labor.

 

[not2old]

That sounds like a nightmare. Almost as bad as the Tacoma (I think it was ) with the starter buried under the intake manifold.

What about the BMW with the starter under the intake manifold that was one piece with the head.

 

[WinterDeere]

Really tho, other than the pulleys and belts on front giving it away you'd be hard pressed to tell it's actually an engine, ridiculous, I wouldn't want to have to work on it for anything other than an oil change. Always blows my mind when you look at an old engine, take an old 225 slant 6, and compare it to that engineering nightmare:

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Here's the thing. The old slant-6's made about 0.6 hp/cid, or 145 hp out of the 225 cid variant. The Hurricane you're all griping about makes 2.2 to 2.8 hp/cid, literally 4x more power.

With that sort of difference, to me anyway, looks and longevity become almost completely irrelevant... not that the old ones are known for going longer miles anyway.