Comparison New 1023E vs 1025R decision

[Garycw]

Thanks Williaty, everything you said makes a lot of sense to me. And the pto switch will be diffinetly be getting the mod. How will I know which two wires are the reverse switch? I need to do a lot of backing while mowing here at the farm and have done this to a cub I presently mow with.
Unfortunately I think I've caught the dreaded "Green Fever". If I can get them to upgrade for around $1300 I may jump to the 1025 and call it a day. For about a week now I've racked my brain to get the most for less. Started with X700 series then to 1 series. Spread sheets from 3 different dealers etc. amazingly I found one dealer about $1200 less, on same equipment.

 

[TripleR]

A quick search will show you how to do the modification, I found a couple but I'm sure there are others: http://www.****************.com/for...12-john-deere-1-series-scuts-1026r-1023e.html

Disabling the RIO on a 1025r

"I have a new 1025r and the RIO safety feature that is factory installed is a very annoying item. It is designed to stop the mower if you put the tractor in reverse. Then you have to push in and then pull out the pto knob to start the mower again. This has some lawyers name wrote all over it. I frequently have to go in reverse when mowing and I refuse to put up with this. Reading on this forum I came by a reader who found a very simple way to disconnect the RIO . Following his instructions was easy. You remove the right side panel and pull the connector for the pto knob off. There is a yellow and red wire side by side and a orange and red wire side by side. The orange and red control the RIO . I cut the orange and red wires, removed some insulation, then twisted the two wires together followed by soldering them together. I then put a piece of heat shrink wrap over the connection and melted it. It will fit back in the plastic conduit and I taped it together just as the factory did. Replace the connector to the pto knob. Reinstall the side panel and you are finished. It took me maybe 10 minutes. Tested it and no more cutting off in reverse. Please remember if you do this, then John Deere is not responsible for any safety problems that may arise. I always look before backing."

We use a box scraper, tiller and blade, so really like position control as it's so much better than the quarter inching on our Kubota BX2660. Several people use the JD, so the seat and adjustable steering is really nice, wish our Kubota had it.

We use R4s on our JD1025R, did on our 2305 and do on our BX and like them overall.

Enjoy your new machine whichever way you go.

 

[RalphVa]

The 2025R has it, too. It would be especially annoying when using a front end snow blower.

Ralph

 

[williaty]

Thanks Williaty, everything you said makes a lot of sense to me. And the pto switch will be diffinetly be getting the mod. How will I know which two wires are the reverse switch? I need to do a lot of backing while mowing here at the farm and have done this to a cub I presently mow with.
Unfortunately I think I've caught the dreaded "Green Fever". If I can get them to upgrade for around $1300 I may jump to the 1025 and call it a day. For about a week now I've racked my brain to get the most for less. Started with X700 series then to 1 series. Spread sheets from 3 different dealers etc. amazingly I found one dealer about $1200 less, on same equipment.

There's another forum for Talking about Green Tractors (re-arrange those words and you'll find it but you can't link to it directly from here) that has instructions about how to do it including wire colors and including me talking about the way that I did it.

 

[TripleR]

There's another forum for Talking about Green Tractors (re-arrange those words and you'll find it but you can't link to it directly from here) that has instructions about how to do it including wire colors and including me talking about the way that I did it.

That is where I got the link I posted, good information.

 

[Garycw]

Thanks for the info. Saves time from metering wires out.
I was quoted 1025 upgrade between $1800 from one dealer to $2000 from another. I showed them another dealers upgrade price of $1300. After much silence and number crunching, head shaking etc, they came up with $1425. I split the difference at $1372.50 and they took it. This the same dealer that quoted $2000. So the new 1025R, H120 and 60D auto connect is on the way
I didn't want to regret not upgrading later after already spending more for a mower than anyone should have too. Out the door a little over $17K.. Yikes!!

 

[TripleR]

Congratulations, I look at these things as long term purchases and have learned to consider not only what I need now, but what I may need in the future so a few bucks spread out over the life of these things really isn't much.

 

[Garycw]

Congratulations, I look at these things as long term purchases and have learned to consider not only what I need now, but what I may need in the future so a few bucks spread out over the life of these things really isn't much.

That's the way I'm trying to look at it. They seem to hold there value better than the full size tractors too ?
You can't really negotiate the wildly over priced parts you may need in the future,so might as well try to get your savings if any up front at purchase. I was able to save a little over a thousand $ from their original price

 

[TripleR]

That's the way I'm trying to look at it. They seem to hold there value better than the full size tractors too ?
You can't really negotiate the wildly over priced parts you may need in the future,so might as well try to get your savings if any up front at purchase. I was able to save a little over a thousand $ from their original price

Yeah, parts on all makes and models seem outrageously priced. A fuel tank fell on our 2008 JD 2305 and a new 1025R cost only 4k more than repairs, so we jumped on it.

The good news is barring accidents etc., very few parts will be needed. Our other tractors have been pretty trouble fee for many years.

 

[Garycw]

Ok. Dumb question. How do you get right side panel off? I removed top bolt, which was already loose & ready to fall out. Are there bolts on bottom and rear? Hate to break a plastic panel on a machine less than a day old. Already had the seat hinder bolt fall out on one side for test mow. The washer and pin was gone.