Need Help Please

[Yanmar Chris]

I want to do some fluid changes in the near future. Have some questions. These questions will be for both my 240D and 220D.

How many qts of oil do they take

What weight oil

What kind of hydraulic fluid and how much ( read on another post 4.5 Gal. )

How do you drain the hydraulic

These are my first tractors and I don't have a manual. Thanks for the help and your patience
Chris

 

[reb]

Not familiar with your specific models. I buy 15W40 diesel rated oil for mine in a 2 1/2 gallon jug. It is enough for more than a couple of changes in my 1500D.

The classic answer for the hydraulic oil question is JD 303 or equivalent. I suspect that the newer types of hydraulic transmission oil are as good, if not better. It is available in 5 gal buckets. You might need two for two tractors.

To drain the fluid look for a drain plug in the bottom of the gearbox. It would be a good idea to clean the filter when changing the oil. Check out Hoye Tractor's website for pictures from the parts list to see where the filter is located.

 

[careyo63]

I believe they are the same 2wd and 4wd the triangle is the filter screen and just below it is the drain bolt. I was just out there so didn't take a sec. I hope they are.

carey

 

[Yanmar Chris]

Thanks for the info. I took some pics. On my 240D the pic looks the same as Carey's . How do you clean the screen ? Does the screen act as a filter ? I think I have my 240D figured out. My red 220D , I'm not too sure of. I seen a filter and wasn't sure if it's the filter for the hydraulics. I'll post some pics and if anyone wants to chime in please do

240D :

Here's the 220D :

DOES THIS COVER HAVE TO COME OFF TO REMOVE OIL FILTER ? :

IS THIS THE HYDRAULIC FILTER ? :

IS THIS THE BOLT TO DRAIN THE HYDRAULIC ? PIC 1 :

OR IS THIS THE BOLT , JUST BELOW IT ? PIC 2 :

 

[careyo63]

Good thats it on the 240. I thought it was the same. Use JD 303 my notes says 16qts. that sounds about right the best I can remember,15-40 eng.oil 4-5 qts. I used parts cleaner on the old screen and hit it with the air, seemed to work fine kept it anyway. It was in pretty bad shape so I replaced it.Better safe than sorry IMO.
There is a o-ring that was missing on the Org. filter/screen just be careful with it. That was another problem it was missing from the previous owner and tried to just use form a gasket which leaked. That was the hardest thing to do when I bought it was getting the Dumb_ _ _. out of it. He wasn't big on maintenence. Get by Charlie big time. I had problems with the lift not working but after a filter and Hyd fluid change and went in and cleaned the hyd. valve it's been good ever since. One thing I'll have to say to be true, if you take care of it, it will take care of you

Carey

 

[Yanmar Chris]

Just an update. Did oil changes on both. Worked on on my green 240D and changed the hydraulic fluid. The fluid looked like a coffee with cream color. After sitting outside in very cold Minnesota nights I would start the tractor and the FEL would not move.

After changing the fluid the tractor shifts better and everything works great. I thought I'd post a few pics

Here is the filter out :

You can see the color of the fluid in this pic :

Here is the filter after cleaning :

 

[Smoody]

looks like water had contaminated the fluid. the screen looks brand new again.

 

[Andy in Gap]

Is that much grit normal on the hydraulic filter? I would be really uncomfortable knowing that much stuff was getting into my hydraulic oil. I've never seen a screen pulled out before, but it looks excessive. Someone with more experience than me want to comment?

 

[careyo63]

Yes. Mine was as bad if not worse when I bought it and pulled all the maint. on it. And I don't have a FEL or BH.

 

[Trkrd]

The hyd/trans fluid on my 240 was also coffee colored from living outside (previous owner). Finally fot it clean after 3 drain and fills with new fluid. However I didn't remove the filter screen for fear that I woud damage one of those aged O-rings and not be able to readily find replacements. Had no issues with FEL or lift so figured the screen was OK. After a look at those pics I'm having second thoughts about skipping this procedure. I don't see the O-rings listed on Hoye's site for my machine. Are they a standard size? If not where can they be purchased?

 

[clemsonfor]

im sure hoye has them but you probly get the mssg that this part is not listed... we have 40,000 parts.. They have it but you have to call and talk to the parts guy and he can tell you the part number to type into your order or can take your order over the phone. Just a word of wisdom Hoye dosent list other ship methods not sure if they will first class mail orings or other small stuff if asked but their minimum amount they list for shipping is something like $14.40, that would be an expensive o-ring, say 1.99 for the part but delivered to your door $16 Better find all the things you need or will need for the next serveral months or maitenance jobs and place a large order that shipping eats you up. That is the one thing i wish hoye did is have USPS mail so they can first class the small things or use priority mail which on the things i have ordered would have saved me $5 or more per shipment, and then you would just order that $2 oring cause whats another $2 to throw it in an evvolope and let the mail guy get it, and hey $4 for an o-ring is alot but if you live in the middle of nowhere like a lot of us where else you going to get it, for me it would be a ride to town and $4 to get going again in 4 days is nothing. sorry for the rant.

 

[Trkrd]

Almost everything I need comes in the mail. I too live in the boonies. Can't even find a decent pizza in the nearest town, much less even common parts needed for basic repairs. Guess I'll pull the screen and see what's up in there. Besides, laying on the barn floor under the tractor and then sitting around waiting for parts is all I can do right now after my dumb-@ss move the other day. (Off the tractor, rolled off the edge of a small stump, and 3rd degree ankle sprain)

 

[careyo63]

Here you go .Here is just how bad it was. This is cleaned as best I could get it. Notice the forma gasket still on it and what looks to be were they tried to repair the screen. I new it was best for me to replace it.

Carey

 

[MJPetersen]

Is that much grit normal on the hydraulic filter? I would be really uncomfortable knowing that much stuff was getting into my hydraulic oil. I've never seen a screen pulled out before, but it looks excessive. Someone with more experience than me want to comment?

That is about what mine looked like except that mine had a hole in it. I think that the suction of the pump pulled the hole.

Mike

 

[winston1]

im sure hoye has them but you probly get the mssg that this part is not listed... we have 40,000 parts.. They have it but you have to call and talk to the parts guy and he can tell you the part number to type into your order or can take your order over the phone. Just a word of wisdom Hoye dosent list other ship methods not sure if they will first class mail orings or other small stuff if asked but their minimum amount they list for shipping is something like $14.40, that would be an expensive o-ring, say 1.99 for the part but delivered to your door $16 Better find all the things you need or will need for the next serveral months or maitenance jobs and place a large order that shipping eats you up. That is the one thing i wish hoye did is have USPS mail so they can first class the small things or use priority mail which on the things i have ordered would have saved me $5 or more per shipment, and then you would just order that $2 oring cause whats another $2 to throw it in an evvolope and let the mail guy get it, and hey $4 for an o-ring is alot but if you live in the middle of nowhere like a lot of us where else you going to get it, for me it would be a ride to town and $4 to get going again in 4 days is nothing. sorry for the rant.

Hoye has sent me parts both by USPS and ups. Depends on the size or weight of order. They sent me tie rod boot covers USPS. I waited about a week , didn't recieve them, called Hoyes, they shipped them 2nd time. Recieved both shipments in about three more days. No fault of them. They offered to pay shipping back on first order. Because of low cost I just kept the parts. Not sure what shipping was but it wasn't $14.40.

 

[clemsonfor]

ok just went and put the fuel filter o-ring in my cart it was .96 cents and i did get the option of privite party for 5.99. That still seems high to me. The plastic bag it comes in will fit in a regualr envolope that is .44 cents charge me 10 cents for the envolope and $1 for the guy to stuff it were at say $1.5 for shipping. I ordered a carb kit for my chain saw and a fuel line both shipped in padded envolopes and i paid no more than $3 for each seperate shipping charges. I know a usps flate rate box would have held my stuff and cant remember but i think it was a ~$14 box but hoye charged me like $21 for ups. Yea it got here to SC in like 3 days but man i would rater wait another day or two for the $6 savings, if given the option, if i want it bad if given the option i will pay the upgrade to ups.

I sure i will get jumped on. And yes i know it is cause they dont want to go to more than one place to ship, but now the mailman can pick up usps packages at your house/business there trying to compete. I like getting things cheap as possible.

 

[normde2001]

I would never order just "O" rings. You can buy "O" rings almost anywhere, Harbor Freight, Home Depot, Lowes, parts stores, etc.

 

[careyo63]

Norm,I'm not kidding you when I said that the hardest thing to do on my 2000 when I bought it was getting the Dumb A_ _ out of it He He He!!!! which I still owe you a few favors in helping me to do that.

Also I forgot to mention to you, that I have alot of Family in Rome. Didn't know you were that close to it up there. Nice Area

Carey