need help building hay trailer "unloader"!!

[jthayes]

I need help with ideas to build an unloader for my hay trailer. I only have one tractor and my hay field is 17 miles away. I am currently using my tractor to load the trailer, I drive 17 miles home, then push the hay off. My trailer is a
flatbed gooseneck w-w trailer, 8x20 feet. I was thinking if I could build
something down the middle of the trailer then raise it to push the hay off the sides? I haul 5x5 round bales. Any and all ideas would be appreciated.

its me its me

john t

 

[rjmack]

might help to have a picture of the trailer loaded, also pictures of the underside of the trailer to see what the structural looks like.

 

[jthayes]

good idea. will try to get pics the next few days.

 

[shinnlinger]

How much $ you want to spend? A loop of stout rope around the bales tied to the barn and drive forward will unload. On the other hand, I have seen old schoolbuses that can self load and unload and a gooseneck that swung out to self load in Farmshow.

How many bales can you haul with your trailer? 5? Do you wrap your bales in the field? Is it a drop tail so the tires are under the deck or does it have fenders? A winch on the trailer and a snatch block and you could parbuckle the bales over the side to load starting at the tail and working forward. Then you could leave the tractor at home, but I suppose the tractor is already in the field to make hay.

If you have a fendered trailer you could put down some timbers that were a whistle higher than the fenders and load the bales on top of that to make rolling the bales off the side easier. I bet a lawn tractor could have some 2x extended up off the back or the front at an angle and could be used as a pusher to roll the bales off.

 

[Johndeere3720]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/176095-easily-coolest-thing-i-have.html If you made something like this with a bale "clamp" you could lift the bales of the trailer and even stack them.:thumbsup: Mount it up in the front end of your trailer so it doesnt take up hay storing room and have it so it pivots like an excavator.

 

[Egon]

A hydraulic tilt deck might suit your needs?

Rigg up an electric winch with continuous cable that will push the bales off the back and then return to position at the front of the trailer?

 

[Renze]

I need help with ideas to build an unloader for my hay trailer. I only have one tractor and my hay field is 17 miles away. I am currently using my tractor to load the trailer, I drive 17 miles home, then push the hay off. My trailer is a
flatbed gooseneck w-w trailer, 8x20 feet. I was thinking if I could build
something down the middle of the trailer then raise it to push the hay off the sides? I haul 5x5 round bales. Any and all ideas would be appreciated.

its me its me

john t

An uncle of mine in Canada, having a trucking company, showed me pictures of his home built trailer: in the mid of the trailer, over the entire length, he has a rack with crossbars on top. In the vertical tubes there are cylinders to move it up and down, and the crossbars have spikes: When he pushes this down, all 3 layers of bales are securely held in place.

At the barn he moves this rack 2 feet up and tips the bales off to both sides: he also made a rack on top of the bed, which tip to both sides. It doesnt take more than half a minute to unload.

 

[CCOUGHRAN1]

Hard to beat a hay van for hauling rolls.

 

[jthayes]

all good ideas. keep them coming. i am leaning toward either a winch on the rear of the trailer or putting a plate down the center of the trailer that
raises hydraulicly. i want to just unload this trailer fast and go get another
load. i haul 8 5x5 rolls on bottom and 3 rollls on top.

john

 

[Johndeere3720]

all good ideas. keep them coming. i am leaning toward either a winch on the rear of the trailer or putting a plate down the center of the trailer that
raises hydraulicly. i want to just unload this trailer fast and go get another
load. i haul 8 5x5 rolls on bottom and 3 rollls on top.

john

What if you made the whole bed tilt either left or right? The others shown woud get the top bales stuck between the racks so you couldnt put them back down.

 

[jthayes]

johndeere3720
i am afraid too much weight would be on one side and damage the tires
or suspension. or warp the frame

john t

 

[Johndeere3720]

like this...

 

[Johndeere3720]

johndeere3720
i am afraid too much weight would be on one side and damage the tires
or suspension. or warp the frame

john t

No, just have it pivot on one side and side dump. have some sort of stabilizer bar to fold down and dump the load on one side.

 

[Johndeere3720]

Kinda like this...

 

[jthayes]

i think maybe two stabilizer bars.

 

[Johndeere3720]

Be sure the stabilizer bars are in safe locations so they wont get crushed.

 

[BHD]

Hard to beat a hay van for hauling rolls.

I had a trailer I considered doing some thing similar when I only had poor loader tractor,

I had come to a conclusion that if I built a cradle and then put the pivots in the stock pockets of the trailer, (was concerned about the width and was wanting to keep them from falling off the trailer as well),

but then put some hydraulics on trailer to push the cradle up, very similar to the hay hauler like in the pictures, but adapted to fit on a 20 foot flat bed, and removable so the trailer had more than one use, if a post was fitted in between the cradles one could use a winch and cable to lift the cradles as well,

there was a kit that one was able to buy, may not have been real successfully as I only ever saw parts of it once, but they built a head board that would set up on the front of the trailer and cables ran back to a shaft on the rear of the trailer and drums for the cable to wind up on working like twin winches pulling the head board back dumping the bales off the rear of the trailer, I do not remember seeing any pipe type tracks for the bails to slide on, the guy only used it a few times and then I saw it setting in a building, and he explained it to me,

 

[jthayes]

i am thru hauling hay for the year and can now get u all some pics and
get to work. i believe a plate down the middle about 3 foot wide and raised
by either hydraulics or a lever type device would work good.

 

[rjmack]

i am thru hauling hay for the year

i think i know what you mean... it's tough to tie up a lot of money on specialty equipment these days.

those hay bunks look nice, but how to get a tractor up there?:laughing:

 

[smiley]

How much $ you want to spend? A loop of stout rope around the bales tied to the barn and drive forward will unload. QUOTE]

If you load the bales with the round side over the sides of the trailer, a good nylon rope attached to the rear of the trailer and run to the front under both rows of bales, then up over the top to the back again, then as shinnlinger says, attach the rope to something stout and drive out from under them. I done that lots of times to unload loose hay and also brush. I you load with the round side front to back, I think you could do the same by running the ropes between the bales back to front , then either pulling them off sideways with a car at home or possibly again attaching to a tree or ? and driving away from them. You might have to jam some sticks or something into the bales to hold the ropes about halfway up.
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