MY2012 5085M ordered today!

[pclausen]

The only HD 85" bucket I see that can be ordered with the H260 loader is the one that comes with the grapple attachment brackets. I don't want that since I got a separate grapple. Would like to see a picture of one to determine what those brackets look like.

 

[pclausen]

So I was able to loosed the 3 bolts that hold the joystick bracket. Once I realized the bolts when through the fender and the nuts could be accessed from the wheel wells, it went pretty quick.

I was then able to remove the cover panel, but alas, there is no power connector to tab into. These are the only 2 connectors there (yellow arrows):

Closeup on the one that runs up to the joystick handle via the grey wire. It is pretty clear that the 3 conductor plug is for the 3rd function, and the 2 conductor one is for the front switch (presumably for disconnecting a front global carrier attachment with the optional solenoid).

And here's the joystick handle showing the 3rd function switch and front switch not currently being used.

So I went to plan B, and used the additional open station harness that connect to the main harness and utilized a power source on the inside left fender. I also picked up ground here as well (12V and ground wires shown with yellow arrows).

Here's a page from the install manual showing the main harness.

And a poor picture showing the tractor power supply plug that is supposed to be down by the shift lever.

 

[pclausen]

I then tried to get the horn button connected. Here's the diagram the dealer sent me.

So basically, I need to locate the 2 space lugs shown in the lower left corner.

I did locate the orange wire 903 on connector X141.

And here is the cable bundle continuing out the other side.

But it continues up into the steering wheel "pod", which contains the PowrReverser lever and turn signal stalk.

Perhaps they made a change for 2012 and the horn button should now be mounted up there instead of in the center cowl?

 

[Zebrafive]

Brackets for grapple are four tabs (per side) with one hole for a cross bolt in each tab. Two tabs top, two tabs bottom per side. Look in JD parts and they show a back view of the bucket. Picture is front view and only shows top tabs.

 

[Zebrafive]

I think you found connector X211, not X141

 

[pclausen]

I think you're right. X211 is a 10 conductor connector which is what I show the picture off. And it would make sense that S05, S07 and S12 are the stalks on the steering wheel column. Let me get back out there and see if I can follow the 903 wire to X141 and then X104.

Btw, thanks for the pic of the 85" bucket. Will discuss with dealer.

 

[pclausen]

I traced orange 903 from X211 to X141. From X141 it goes into the main harness that goes under the floor mat to the left rear fender. So the diagram the dealer sent me must be for the pre 2012 5085M. I even went so far as to take out the instrument panel completely and there is just no X104 with a pair of spade lug pig tails to be found anywhere in the center console.

I bet the dealer looked up the schematic in this technical manual:

And he should have looked it up in this manual:

I'm thinking about picking up this diagnostic manual. I'm sure it will come in handy over the years. I typically always get these for my vehicles as I service them myself after the warranty period expires.

Anyway, I buttoned everything back up and reconnected the battery. All the other newly installed electrical options now work. Accumulator solenoid, right fender EH control and brake lights.

 

[Edward. S]

Looks like its coming along real well! I'm still waiting for my weights, beacon and stabilizer bars, for now I cant use the 3 point hitch all my implements will sway. Real bad if I had the plow or tiller on. Might hit a few cars. :confused2: I think its been about 2 weeks for this slow dealer to get my stuff in. They preordered it about 2 weeks before. The 6430 Premium is my favorite tractor to pull the disk now. It makes a nice flat even surface cause the tires don't sink in as much as the other two 6000's.

 

[pclausen]

Dealer sent me updated wiring schematics and it did indeed change for MY2012.

Here's the new horn wiring schematic. I don't even see where the horn switch is in this diagram.

And here's a physical illustration of the 2012 center console. No spade lugs to be found anywhere and not clear where the horn button would hook up.

Who would have thought it would be this difficult to hook up a darn horn button. :laughing:

 

[pclausen]

Dealer just called me and suggested that since the MY2012 M series now have a little stalk for the turn signal and high/low beam, it might be that by pushing it forward past the low beam setting, that will engage the horn. That is how the 6000 series work. Will try that tonight. I'm sure glad I didn't already drill a hole for the horn button if that is indeed the case. :laughing:

 

[AKfish]

Yep... it's a good thing that you're willing to be certain before you jump into it! I probably would have drilled first and then - figured it out...

AKfish

 

[Zebrafive]

I am assuming the horn kit came with a button?

My 6415 has horn button, horn is not in the stalk, but it's an economy version of the 6X20 series.

 

[pclausen]

Horn works! You push in on the turn signal stalk to engage it. Neither the Operator's Manual, nor the silk screen on the stalk eludes to this capability. I'm glad to finally have this figured out.

Zebra, yes, the kit included the button. Then again, the brake light kit included the double switch that mount above the break pedal, only my tractor already had this switch.

With the options installed, I was finally able to take the tractor for a quick spin. I took it down into a field by the house that I keep cut for pig roasts and such. The decibel level was very low, even on the passes I ran at 2100 RPM. No sweating from the humidity, no bugs all over me, being able to carry on a conversation on my cell phone (still got to pair to the Bluetooth radio), so wow, what a difference from my 4700 open station CUT! The 5085 doesn't even know the 90" finish cutter is behind it, even at 540E setting! It just breezed through the 8" tall grass like it was nothing at 8 mph. Can't wait for the H260 loader to get here and get started on clearing slash off about 10 acres of cleared forest, not to mention bush hogging the ~40 acres or so across the street with the 3209 cutter. Or the plowing or the disk'ing, or the stump grinding. With just 4 hours on the clock, I can already tell this is going to be an incredible machine!

Here are some pics of what little work I subjected this machine to this evening.

I did move the wheels out about 3" (the next step out from the most narrow setting), and I think I can live with that for now.

 

[Zebrafive]

Glad you got the horn working without putting unneeded holes in the console. You now have a genuine JD horn button to figure out a use for. Sounds like you are BETA tester for JD.

How hard was moving the rear tires out? Have any help, or do it alone?

Bet the tractor did not even know the mower was behind it.!

 

[pclausen]

Did the tires myself. Jack up one side to where the wheel just floats, undo the 8 lug bolts completely. Pop the wheel and roll it over and lean against a wall, the undo the 8 bolts that hold the inner wheel disk to the outer rim. Move to the other side of outer rim and re-assemble. Repeat for other side.

The only real trick is to not let the wheel/tire get away from you, and have the axle height just right when lining the holes back up to get the lug bolts back on. I was a little off on the 2nd wheel and threw a few shims on the floor and rolled the wheel up on them.

yeah, the tractor didn't know the 90" mover was back there. Even going back up the steep road to the shop, the front never even thought about lifting. With my 4700 CUT, I had to have the loader or a full set of weights on the front to get backup without the tractor flipping over backwards.

I don't think I'll be so lucky when I connect the 3209 Bush Hog cutter. That thing is over 2500 lbs I believe. Would be great if it can handle it, that way I don't have to get weights for the front, or be stuck leaving the loader on when cutting brush.

 

[ohio farmer04]

price buddy seat cab 4x4?

 

[Zebrafive]

I don't think I'll be so lucky when I connect the 3209 Bush Hog cutter. That thing is over 2500 lbs I believe. Would be great if it can handle it, that way I don't have to get weights for the front, or be stuck leaving the loader on when cutting brush.

Did you get the front starter weight? Mine has a 90KG and when I bought 8 47KG suitcase weights (used) they included a 110KG starter weight. I thihnk the 90KG will hold 14 weights and the 110KG will hold 20.

 

[pclausen]

Yes, it came with the front "bumper/carrier" that will hold up to 20 weights, which as you mention, is a couple hundred pounds by itself. It might be enough.

 

[pclausen]

price buddy seat cab 4x4?

I wanna say the buddy seat was like $500 list. Or are you asking what the cost of the whole tractor was?

 

[ohio farmer04]

I wanna say the buddy seat was like $500 list. Or are you asking what the cost of the whole tractor was?

what cost whole tractor was please