MX5200 Engine Problem
- Thread starter rabcon
- Start date
- Views: 77479
skyhook
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2013
- Messages
- 1,917
- Location
- Canada Ontario
- Tractor
- 1996 Kubota L4200 GSTC,(sold) 1994 JCB 210S 4x4x4
Scary stuff, been there, done that on a truck diesel.
In my case, it was the injection pump, so disconnecting the fuel line did the trick.
If your going to block the air intake, use a block of wood, as stated earlier, it will suck just about anything in the intake.
Once it starts on feeding from the oil however, blocking the air intake is the only way,
if you can't do that for some reason, she'll run until there's no more oil and blow the engine.
Glad the dealer stepped up for ya.:thumbsup:
I can tell you this, now that this has happened to you, you'll have this in the back of your mind for quite some time. Also, depending on how long the engine has been revving high, it could be dangerous to start playing under the hood.
In my case, it was the injection pump, so disconnecting the fuel line did the trick.
If your going to block the air intake, use a block of wood, as stated earlier, it will suck just about anything in the intake.
Once it starts on feeding from the oil however, blocking the air intake is the only way,
if you can't do that for some reason, she'll run until there's no more oil and blow the engine.
Glad the dealer stepped up for ya.:thumbsup:
I can tell you this, now that this has happened to you, you'll have this in the back of your mind for quite some time. Also, depending on how long the engine has been revving high, it could be dangerous to start playing under the hood.
TomSeller
Super Member
Might give you peace of mind to fabricate or have something stout to block the air intake completely and leave it on the tractor. Likely you will never need it but it will be there to make you less nervous.
skyhook
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2013
- Messages
- 1,917
- Location
- Canada Ontario
- Tractor
- 1996 Kubota L4200 GSTC,(sold) 1994 JCB 210S 4x4x4
I agree, I know I now keep a block of wood in my truck. "never put your hand over an intake to smother the air flow.
OP
rabcon
Member
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2005
- Messages
- 46
- Location
- NY
- Tractor
- 312B , 307SB Cat, 450G Deere, Kubota MX5200 825i Gator
Stop at the dealer today, and they got the ok from Kubota to order a complete new motor, computer, and exhaust system. Now they are working to locate the parts and get them here .That is nice to have a Dealer with GREAT SERVICE !!!
coobie
Super Member
- Joined
- Sep 19, 2004
- Messages
- 6,402
- Location
- S.Michigan
- Tractor
- Kubota RTV 1100c, JD 740,Kioti DK 40 with KL401 loader .
Great news.
Wilburdog
New member
- Joined
- Jan 1, 2014
- Messages
- 17
- Location
- Northern BC
- Tractor
- Kubota BX25D, '51 & '52 Ford 8N, '59 Ford 871
Good to hear, keep us posted
TomSeller
Super Member
A great dealer and a great tractor company !! I would stick close to those guys.
rbargeron
Elite Member
Glad it's developing in that direction. Do you know if the failed engine will be inspected at the dealership? or will it go back to Kubota? It would be useful to know exactly what they think caused it. If a "frozen" crankcase vent can lead to an event like this a redesign/recall may be needed. Beyond the obvious high cost, it is a safety issue - many owners would be tempted to try to intervene.
OP
rabcon
Member
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2005
- Messages
- 46
- Location
- NY
- Tractor
- 312B , 307SB Cat, 450G Deere, Kubota MX5200 825i Gator
I was told there is a update kit for the venting system on other models for the freezing problem,but not with the MX5200 yet until mine did it. when I get more info I will post it. With the Fed's making the company's do the tier 4 engine deal it's costing a lot of money to get it right to not have them smoke up the air we breath. But my dealer had a isue with a 7040 too. So I don't know if it is just a fluck that happen to my. But Kubota is standing behind there Equipment on my part so fare.
wmonroe
Elite Member
That's good to hear the dealer and Kubota are standing behind it. Good luck.
WJB Jr
New member
I also have a 2014 MX 5200 that did the same exact thing yesterday. Bought 9/2014 with 115 hrs on it. Got away from New Hollands because I thought the Kubota's were better...now my old New Holland is my loaner. The dealer acted like they had never heard of this problem before. kind of makes me wonder if it is a problem they are keeping quiet since it is a new model and motor.
rScotty
Super Member
- Joined
- Apr 21, 2001
- Messages
- 9,753
- Location
- Rural mountains - Colorado
- Tractor
- Kubota M59, JD530, JD310SG. Restoring Yanmar YM165D
Please do post what you hear. I am hoping to learn more about the venting problem. Does it affect other M models? For instance by "freezing" are they saying it was due to cold weather plus icing? Or is the word "freezing" is being used in the mechanics sense of something not being free to move for mechanical reasons - like a bearing being "froze up"?
Without just a bit more info it's just one of those catchall terms that could mean quite different things.
Kubota was very good about standing up and fixing my backhoe cylinder under warranty some years back. But they flatly refused to say anything at all about what kind of mechanical problem caused the failure in the first place. I never did find out....
So I ended up with a tractor that works fine...and that's good.....but not one bit wiser as to why....
rScotty
OP
rabcon
Member
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2005
- Messages
- 46
- Location
- NY
- Tractor
- 312B , 307SB Cat, 450G Deere, Kubota MX5200 825i Gator
The freezing is as in froozen water or iceing . And from what I was told today at my dealer the update to the venting system will only be addressed if the tractor has the isue like mine had and is a major deal. But all the new units that are being built will have the new update. I am glade they have a fix for the isue and my unit will have the update. But just me thinking , I would think it would save Kubota a lot of money if they would have a call back on all the tractors in cold weather areas fixed or updated.
