Must Have Shop Items

[ovrszd]

How does that switch control 220V? Wouldn't it just shut off one leg?

 

[ovrszd]

A Shop is also good for a Marriage. A little distance between you on occasion can be a good thing.

My wife enjoys that I have an all weather shop just as much as I do. She is rarely out here and doesn't stay long unless she's got a project going on in here.

 

[Doofy]

How does that switch control 220V? Wouldn't it just shut off one leg?

I think the 120v lighting circuit energizes the contactor which pulls in and provides the 220v. It's just a big solenoid.

 

[ovrszd]

I think the 120v lighting circuit energizes the contactor which pulls in and provides the 220v. It's just a big solenoid.

Yeah, that's how mine works.

He's using a double pole toggle wall switch. I'm not an electrician at all. I didn't know you could buy a switch like that to run a 220V air compressor motor.

 

[Doofy]

Yeah, that's how mine works.

He's using a double pole toggle wall switch. I'm not an electrician at all. I didn't know you could buy a switch like that to run a 220V air compressor motor.

Usually just an electro-magnetic contactor and is used on large motors and fans.

 

[ovrszd]

Usually just an electro-magnetic contactor and is used on large motors and fans.

Well, I asked if he was using a contactor and he said no, just a wall switch. So that lead me to believe he's supplying 220V to a wall box, connecting the switch, running 220V out of the box to his compressor?? Curious to hear confirmation.

 

[Big Barn]

Well, I asked if he was using a contactor and he said no, just a wall switch. So that lead me to believe he's supplying 220V to a wall box, connecting the switch, running 220V out of the box to his compressor?? Curious to hear confirmation.

I believe it is a 220v 30 amp switch he is using. That is how I interpreted it.

I’ll shut up now because my electrical knowledge is pretty minimal.

 

[ovrszd]

I believe it is a 220v 30 amp switch he is using. That is how I interpreted it.

I’ll shut up now because my electrical knowledge is pretty minimal.

I'm sure you are way ahead of me Terry. That's what I thought he meant as well.

In my particular case my compressor is at opposite ends of the shop from man door. I would have had to run power the length of the building twice. But in other circumstances I can see the advantage. And it saves the cost of the contactor.

 

[aczlan]

Well, I asked if he was using a contactor and he said no, just a wall switch. So that lead me to believe he's supplying 220V to a wall box, connecting the switch, running 220V out of the box to his compressor?? Curious to hear confirmation.

The linked switch is a double pole switch, so it would shut off both sides of the 220 and he just has to have power to the air compressor go through that switch.
I plan on doing something similar, but with a crank timer type switch. I found a 2 Pole crank timer switch that will be installed in line between the panel and the air compressor and turn off the air compressor when the timer runs out.

Aaron Z

 

[ovrszd]

The linked switch is a double pole switch, so it would shut off both sides of the 220 and he just has to have power to the air compressor go through that switch.
I plan on doing something similar, but with a crank timer type switch. I found a 2 Pole crank timer switch that will be installed in line between the panel and the air compressor and turn off the air compressor when the timer runs out.

Aaron Z

That's a new one me too. So can you explain the crank timer a little more? I manually select a time period or program it or what? Thanks!!!

 

[jmc]

I built my first shop after my Eldest Son was grown and had left home. 2nd Son was a Senior in HS. 3rd Son was a Freshman.

I waited too long. I should have built it 10 years earlier and shared it with my Sons.

If you would use a shop, build it now, by whatever means is needed. Especially if you have kids at home.

That reminds me- when I built a swingset for our preschooler, I put it right outside of the detached shop, rather than in the immediate yard. We spent a lot of time out there together, each doing our own thing.

Similarly, if you have shop room inside, a refrigerator box is a terrible thing to waste. They make a great hideout, with window holes and flapped doors. Extra credit if your child gets to decide where the holes go.

 

[Doofy]

https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-C25DND...mt=p&keywords=c25dnd330&qid=1584224595&sr=8-1

This is it. A contactor. Very smart addition and is reasonably priced.

 

[the old grind]

A guy could use this 2-pole contactor. >$15 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Noark-4...ERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-300813253-_-300812706-_-N



Use this to time the contactor's coil. Rated for 220v at higher amps that required for the contactor. <$30 FF6MC - Intermatic - Commercial Spring Wound In-Wall Timer Switch | 1Bulbs.com

Hooking these up is as intuitive and as simple as it looks. Neutral and ground wires are not switched with a 2-pole switch setup.

 

[Big Barn]

That reminds me- when I built a swingset for our preschooler, I put it right outside of the detached shop, rather than in the immediate yard. We spent a lot of time out there together, each doing our own thing.

Similarly, if you have shop room inside, a refrigerator box is a terrible thing to waste. They make a great hideout, with window holes and flapped doors. Extra credit if your child gets to decide where the holes go.

Nice

 

[Diggin It]

That's what I have ... crank it past 10 or 15 and I'm usually good for most of what I do. Mine's only 110 though.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

^^ Maybe a container to toss your finger(s) in?

Thank goodness, I have never even come close to injury when using the table saw or miter saw. The safest tool in the shop (at least I used to think so) bit my fingers real good one time.... the drill press.... yes the drill press! I had it on top speed, countersinking some oak with a brad point spiral wood bit. I thought it was in the chuck correctly, but only 2 of the teeth had hold of it. When it made contact with the wood, it started spiraling around and put about 10 slices down the length of my index finger before I even knew what was happening!

I wrapped it up in my t-shirt and went in the house.... some cleaning, gauze pads, and tape....I was good as new. Until the pain started half hour later. I was lucky for sure. I now have respect for even the simplest tool.... including screwdrivers.... that is another story for later:shocked:

 

[countrybumpkin]

I like the contactor Idea Richard has, I have always been around compressors wire hot 24/7. In my new shop I have been thinking about a way to shut it off, the compressor is outside the shop area in my cold storage area and with two walk in doors it was going to be a lot more wiring but my lights are all wired with three way switches so all I will need to do is tap into one of the light fixtures closets to the compressor wiring.

 

[aczlan]

Hooking these up is as intuitive and as simple as it looks. Neutral and ground wires are not switched with a 2-pole switch setup.

Yep, just have to get the DPST version.

That's a new one me too. So can you explain the crank timer a little more? I manually select a time period or program it or what? Thanks!!!

This is the one that I ordered: https://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-FF12HHC-Timer-Brushed-Finish/dp/B000LDEO26/
12 hour time limit, crank to set how long you will be in the shop, switches both hot lines.

Aaron Z

 

[sodamo]

Has anybody mentioned First Aid stuff yet?

My more complete kit is in the shop. Other odds and ends throughout the house, but I always know this kit is good.

 

[sodamo]

Yes and video surveillance. And now we have to add dog food and treats.

Already have treats in mine snd the dogs know it. Had to open a new jar this morning.