Backhoe Model 48 backhoe on a 955?

[jxhopper]

I'm guessing this isn't possible but I thought I'd ask the people that would know. I have an opportunity to buy one for cheap and was wondering if there is any way I could make it work.

 

[dfkrug]

Sure it is possible, but that is a lot of hoe for such a light tractor. JD
recommends the 7 or 47 hoe as I recall. At least they mount it close-in
to the back of the tractor. The photo is of a 7 on a 955 with turfs.
Even the 7 will pull the tractor around while digging.

I have lots of seat time in 955s with a backhoe mounted. I used custom
subframes and a hoe that weighed a bit more than the 48. It was VERY
easy to drag the tractor around, which limits your digging productivity.

Depending on the deal, it may still be hard to pass up the 48.

 

[jxhopper]

Sure it is possible, but that is a lot of hoe for such a light tractor. JD
recommends the 7 or 47 hoe as I recall. At least they mount it close-in
to the back of the tractor. The photo is of a 7 on a 955 with turfs.
Even the 7 will pull the tractor around while digging.

I have lots of seat time in 955s with a backhoe mounted. I used custom
subframes and a hoe that weighed a bit more than the 48. It was VERY
easy to drag the tractor around, which limits your digging productivity.

Depending on the deal, it may still be hard to pass up the 48.

$2000 or maybe a bit less. Understanding that it is over sized for the 955, would it take a lot of custom work to get it mount to the 955?

 

[kennyd]

$2000 or maybe a bit less. Understanding that it is over sized for the 955, would it take a lot of custom work to get it mount to the 955?

That sounds like a scam...but if it's the real deal then buy it and sell it for 6k. I think it's to much hoe for your machine.

 

[jxhopper]

That sounds like a scam...but if it's the real deal then buy it and sell it for 6k. I think it's to much hoe for your machine.

It might be a scam. But I spoke with the guy who is local to where I live. It may well be too much hoe for my machine, but If I go look at it and it is indeed for real...

I'm not getting a different tractor, but I would like a backhoe. If I can make this work for the tractor I have (though it may be over sized).

If I can make it work without too much custom work for very moderate digging, for the price...
Should I not give it a go for judicious use, keeping in mind I would have to be aware of the very light weight of the 955?

If so, can anyone speak to how much custom work (if any) it might take to attach it to the 955?

He is supposed to send me pictures tonight. If I go and see it in person, what should I look for to discern a scam?

Thanks for everyone's advice.



Jason

 

[jxhopper]

DFKRUG,
I would especially appreciate your input, since you have said you have mounted an even bigger hoe on the 955 than the 48.

Thanks!

 

[jxhopper]

I'll post pictures when he sends them to me to see what you think.

 

[jxhopper]

Here's the pix he sent. What do you guys think?

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[dfkrug]

DFKRUG,
I would especially appreciate your input, since you have said you have mounted an even bigger hoe on the 955 than the 48.

That looks like an old 8 hoe, on maybe a JD 1050? Look at that subframe....
you can see a bit of it in one photo.

Anyway, I have made subframes for 2 of my hoes on 955s, and they
were not hard to make. The hoe is a clone of the Woods 7500, but
this one is a good deal heavier because it has more steel and uses
2 swing cyls instead of one. It is in the same class at the 8, or 48, or 448
from JD. It weighs a bit more than the 48, but it is not bigger.

$2K is a good deal, as long as it has no rust on the cylinder rods, and
the hydraulics work. You can't use his subframe, however.

Here is my 955/PrairieDog, and one of the subframes I made.

 

[jxhopper]

Thanks for your input. I'm just not sure if I would be getting in over my head trying to make it work.

I just bought the tractor. I'm not a welder. I'm very mechanically inclined, but there are alot of variables here. That thing looks huge.

Seems like a really good deal though....

Arrgh torn.

 

[kennyd]

I'm not a welder.

That would be a deal breaker for me...getting this BH mounted to your machine will certainly require welding and fabrication.

 

[CrownHawg]

Man! I wish I could find a deal like that! That 48 (or whatever) would fit my 4120 nicely! Around here they are like $6-8K used.

 

[jxhopper]

That looks like an old 8 hoe, on maybe a JD 1050? Look at that subframe....
you can see a bit of it in one photo.

Anyway, I have made subframes for 2 of my hoes on 955s, and they
were not hard to make. The hoe is a clone of the Woods 7500, but
this one is a good deal heavier because it has more steel and uses
2 swing cyls instead of one. It is in the same class at the 8, or 48, or 448
from JD. It weighs a bit more than the 48, but it is not bigger.

$2K is a good deal, as long as it has no rust on the cylinder rods, and
the hydraulics work. You can't use his subframe, however.

Here is my 955/PrairieDog, and one of the subframes I made.

So All I need to do is have a simple subframe frame fabricated similar to what you have here and the hydraulics will hook right up after I mount the frame. Other than being a bit oversized... everything should work?

 

[xrjohndeere]

I believe from the looks of that hoe it would be too much for your little tractor. I have the 448 on my 4520 and it is a load. It looks like that hoe is alot heavier. Buy the hoe if you get a really good deal on it and then try to sell or trade it for a smaller hoe that would be more suitable for your tractor. Just remember with a torch and welder anything can be made to fit. Good luck.

 

[dfkrug]

So All I need to do is have a simple subframe frame fabricated similar to what you have here and the hydraulics will hook right up after I mount the frame. Other than being a bit oversized... everything should work?

I don't think you said what kind of hydraulic setup you have. If
it has not already been done, you need to get a Power Beyond plug
and connect some hyd lines to your hydraulic block under the seat.

Or, you can use a PTO hyd pump/reservoir setup. That will cost a lot
more than using your tractor's hyd system, unless it is included with
the hoe.

 

[jxhopper]

OK.I'll let it go. THe reality is it's just too big... even if it is a really good deal. I'm not in any hurry to get one. Maybe eventually a deal will come along on a #7.

If anyone would be interested, the backhoe is here:


John Deere Backhoe Attachment

Thanks everyone for all of the help and advice.

Jason

 

[arrabil]

That is either broken, stolen, or a scam. No way you can get a big backhoe AND subframe for $2K legitimately. I would drive to Little Rock to get a 48 with subframe for $2K. Like KennyD said, you can get $5K+ for it the very next day.

If its real, you should just buy it to turn it around.

 

[jxhopper]

I don't have the time or resources to mess with it. I will say that so far in speaking with the guy, it does not seem like a scam. He told me it does slowly leak down after awhile raised, and there is a bit of play in some of the joints. It may be a scam, but I've spoke to the guy on the phone twice and he sent me the pix I posed immediately when I asked.

See the pix I posted earlier.

 

[arrabil]

Oh, I gotchya. I didn't see where the pictures were before. Yeah, that ain't a 48/448. I guess he could only want $2K for that. Still, something wouldn't be quite right with it. Though leaking down slowly I would probably call normal.... Sorry I butt in, everyone already had it.

 

[JB4310]

That is either broken, stolen, or a scam. No way you can get a big backhoe AND subframe for $2K legitimately. I would drive to Little Rock to get a 48 with subframe for $2K. Like KennyD said, you can get $5K+ for it the very next day.

If its real, you should just buy it to turn it around.

It's not a 48 BH, It does look well made/HD though.
But it's ~30 years old and ain't gonna simply couple up to any modern machine. I think it could be legit. Not the deal of the century as far as I'm concerned.
Sure, when you're looking for something like that you can't find it, but try selling one. Used equipment is not fetching big money these days. Which could be a or a depending on which side of the coin your on.

I've got a 48 hoe on my 32 hp 4310 seems to be a good fit, I thought a 955 was in the same class, though this one for sale looks heavier than a 48.

Well at least you guys make me feel better thinking that my hoe might always be worth decent money if I needed to sell it.


EDIT: I'm a slow typer and didn't see you changed your thought of it after seeing it :End Edit

JB.