Modding a ground clamp?

   / Modding a ground clamp? #31  
Those are quick disconnects at the machine, no? Mine ground is 'hard wired'. I understood yomax modded his wires for an in-line disconnect like a pin/socket connector.

Chop the lead coming out of your machine and have a short pig tail with a quick connect. Tweco connectors in this photo.


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Or get real fancy and install a panel plug on the face of your welder if there’s room. Dinse or Euro style in this photo.

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You may have to “borrow” that fancy crimper.
 
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#32  
And here I thought my project was done and could cross off the long list! :smiley_aafz: :D
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #33  
No, Mark. We’re just getting you started!
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #34  
And here I thought my project was done and could cross off the long list! :smiley_aafz: :D

You don't understand.... Projects are never done....

And just FYI, I happened to be into a TSC today and they had 11 different sized copper lugs for ends of cables in welding supplies section....

Dale
 
   / Modding a ground clamp?
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#35  
You don't understand.... Projects are never done....

And just FYI, I happened to be into a TSC today and they had 11 different sized copper lugs for ends of cables in welding supplies section....

Dale
It is time to revisit my TSC store... I do like poking around there. Just opened mid last year. Never heard of TSC before they opened. Have bought a few things from them, but in general... not great deals. Purchases so far that I remember... 4in mesh grating for my wife's garden (bean, pea, and squash trellises). Also some decent gloves, a couple hummingbird feeders, some cat food for home made shrimp bait (don't have a cat much to my wife's chagrin).

Now back to the original programming...

Lower on the bucket list but in my mind. Finding a QA plug for 6 gauge.
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #36  
Not sure of the Tweco part numbers anymore for the Quik connects but you can also get Lenco LC10 for smaller cables and LC40 for the big stuff. There are likely several others out there. Good Luck and happy shopping.
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #37  
Thanks for your reply!

Option 1: Didn't find one. If someone wants to point me to where I don't have to buy a pack of 10 or 25 :thumbsup:

Option 2: I could increase the wire gauge to 2/0 and I think it will actually fit the routing and terminal inside the welder. Really didn't want the expense of a 15ft wire. I actually bought a second terminal in case I mangled the first one. See pic.

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Option 3: What I was planning to do unless someone had a brilliant idea. Thinking at least a tripler.

McMaster-Carr

You can find just about everything you would ever need at McMaster
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #38  
...Crimping (properly at least) is superior to soldering. As odd as it sounds it's quite true. When you solder stranded wire solder wicks up the strands & fuses them solid....

This may sound logical but in general mobile applications it's simply a falsehood, in static situations there is no vibration or flexing...it doesn't happen with large gauge wire...proven many times over by electric golf cart professionals both soldering and crimping makes the best terminal connection...

There have been several threads (mostly about batteries) where the same points were made...

in general electronic applications it is generally recommended to "tin" the ends of wires before they are soldered to a PCB or a component etc...
 
   / Modding a ground clamp? #39  
This may sound logical but in general mobile applications it's simply a falsehood, in static situations there is no vibration or flexing...it doesn't happen with large gauge wire...proven many times over by electric golf cart professionals both soldering and crimping makes the best terminal connection...

There have been several threads (mostly about batteries) where the same points were made...

in general electronic applications it is generally recommended to "tin" the ends of wires before they are soldered to a PCB or a component etc...

PCB boards are not crimp on style power cable connectors..... In industry I came out of (retired after 38 years) everything than was #14 gauge and larger was a crimp connector and no solder and we went up all the way to 750,000 CM cables.... "PROPER" crimp connector is industry wide standard....

Where most people fail with crimp on connector is the don't know proper way to crimp them, you DO NOT squeeze them in a vise or beat on them with hammer, first thing is lug (connector/terminal) has to be proper fit to wire size and then a proper indenter or circumferential crimp must be uses, also recommended to put some anti corrosion grease on cable end before crimp if connection is going to be in harsh environment... Heat shrink tubing also helps keep oxygen and moisture (corrosive perpetrators) out of crimp....

Most people are put off by wire crimping because they have had poor success for cheap auto parts crimpers.... And don't know to step up to more professional tools...

Poorest tool for crimps, if you have these, throw them away...

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Suggest you get ratchet style crimpers with interchangeable dies for type of crimps you are attempting....

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For large work...

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Dale
 
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   / Modding a ground clamp? #40  
PCB boards are not crimp on style power cable connectors..... In industry I came out of (retired after 38 years) everything than was #14 gauge and larger was a crimp connector and no solder and we went up all the way to 750,000 CM cables.... "PROPER" crimp connector is industry wide standard....

Dale
crimped on tinned wire ends...

I'm not going to bother looking up or searching for the links that are somewhere in the (battery) threads I cited...they prove through testing that a combination of both crimping and soldering makes the best connection (for large gauge connectors) does not mean it's industry standard...
 

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