MF135 Petrol Engine problems

   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems #11  
G'day Oz.
Threre were only two petrol engines widely used in the 135,s one was the continental z134 on the standard 135 ( No dash gauges) and the other engine was the z145 used in the deluxe model it had oil pressure ,ampmeter and tractormeter gauges plus a few other little things.
set points to 12 Thou ,bring number one cylinder to TDC then turn the engine back approx 3/4 inch on the outside edge of the front pulley this will give you 10 Degrees before top dead centre some tractors in australia had a timing "Notch" on the inside edge of the pulley( Nearest the engine) I have never seen a timing window on a petrol engine in australia.
I would replace the points and the condenser, Set the crankshaft as suggested ,with the cap of, loosen the distributor turn the ignition key to the ON and slowly rotate the distributor you will see and hear the spark indicating that the points are indeed at the critical open position ,you can do this as many times as you want just make sure you are not to near the coil or the cap ,you may get a little reminder.
The Hole on the bottom of the intake should have a sintered plug to allow any excess fuel to escape it will not affect the running but it will allow dust to enter the engine sugges you plug with silicone or your favourite hole filler!!
The most common cause of backfire with regard to the carburetor is the butterfly shaft it wears with age and can cause a weak or varying fuel mixture ,there is a service kit available it comes with two bushes and instructions ,you will have to drill out the carburetor body and fit the bushes and new shaft etc, this you will find the tractor runs like the proverbial Swiss Watch .
Note The year of Manufacture is stamped on an oval aluminium tag riveted to the distributor should be say 4/65 meaning 4 th month 1965 or whatever. over the years I have found that although this is a Lucas number the tractors were within a few months of the date stamped on the distributor.
ooroo.
Hutch.
 
   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems
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#12  
Thanks so much for this information.
The tractor is 1967 vintage.... The distributor is stamped like u say.... 866
So that's about right - Aug 1966 ......
There is no timing marks to be found anywhere.... So will try your method ��
I have purchased and am waiting for a OEM workshop manual. That may guide me a little too.
Chris
 
   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems
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#13  
Thanks so much for this information.
The tractor is 1967 vintage.... The distributor is stamped like u say.... 866
So that's about right - Aug 1966 ......
There is no timing marks to be found anywhere.... So will try your method ��
I have purchased and am waiting for a OEM workshop manual. That may guide me a little too.
Chris

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So everyone.
Thank you so much for your help and suggestions.
Finally sorted.
Have removed distributor and found that in one of its previous lives, this item has been seriously abused.
Heavy plier scoring to the shaft. And although the advance and ****** springs were intact, they weren't from this tractor, nor identical. The centrifugal weights had been forced so much by a screwdriver or jemmy. They were barely able to move without fouling.
New distributor, immediately cured.

On a different note.
The actual engine appears by design to be a continental Z145 engine (as best I can determine)
There are no markings on the block that give any ideas.
There are no timing marks either on the crankshaft pulley &/or timing case.
There is definitely no viewing "hole" below the starter motor as should be expected.
I removed the starter motor and could obviously easily view the flywheel with its relevant markings.
On the starter motor hole edge on the flywheel casing there is a machined groove. I static timed it to this.
Then with the starter back installed. The engine started first time. Runs very well.
No easy way to time the engine ignition without the starter motor out.... .?? !!
 
   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems
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#14  
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Starter motor hole Marking, is clearly visible.
As is the timing marks on flywheel.

Does anyone else understand why this is so ?
 
   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems #15  
G'day oz .
I did tell you how to time the engine WITHOUT removing the starter motor maybe you did not hear me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hutch..
 
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#16  
Hi Hutch
Apologies. I did try, but must have made a boob. It ran like a bag of poo.
After setting up with starter out, on a static of 6degs b4tdc. and it ran.
I then redid it with your method and it ran also........
So I did make an initial mistake. Thanks M8.
I did listen Hutch :thumbsup:
 
   / MF135 Petrol Engine problems #17  
If there is a hand crank for that motor, you could crank it to start by hand. Just ****** the timing a tad (45 degrees) and have at it. DO NOT WRAP your thumb around the crank handle when trying this method.
I used to start my Farmall C this way even in the dead of winter.
 

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