Mahindra 5155 Anyone?

[DaBear3428]

In the owners manual they mentioned that a bolt on tooth bar would be available. So not sure if available yet but you might ask your dealership and he might know. For digging a tooth really helps.

it will be available Soon (like when hell freezes over) and at an affordable price of either an arm or a leg (your choice).
Jk i have no idea nor does my dealer but if it is like the diverter valve at $2,600.00, no thanks

also with how well this thing digs without the tooth bar i do not think i need it, these photos are undisturbed packed soil or clay without loaded tires just a box blade on the rear.

 

[DaBear3428]

is anyone else having issues keeping the pins and keepers in place on the 5100 series. my 3pt lift arm lost a pin at the pivot and was dangling, the pins that limit the swing of the drawbar kept losing the keepers so i took them out and let the draw bar swing from side to side at will. the keeper in the pittlel connection at the end of the draw bar lost the keeper, not that big of a deal because of the double lock on that system. and last night i found out that one of the retaining pins for the FEL stand had left the tractor with out leave.

at this rate i will have to lojack the various parts of my tractor so that i can find them in the field.

 

[DaBear3428]

Ok so I lied. And now I’m considering a political career . But I started looking at the area up near the three point and remote valve controls. And from behind the tractor I could see another grease fitting in there aimed up. So I took the plastic cover that goes over the three point and remote valve levers and there’s actually three grease fittings in there. Two serve the remote pivots and one serves the three point pivot. I’ve attached a photo showing them and this picture is taken standing back by the rear of the tractor looking forward. You have to remove about 6 Phillips head screws and pop the electrical connector off of the 12 volt power Jack and the whole cover comes off to give easy access to these three fittings. Not sure if these ones are in the owners manual or not but they’re on the tractor for sure. Hopefully this helps others. View attachment 753507

thats it! Andy for POTUS!

 

[Woodstock Walt]

It's ironic that you guys mentioned toothbars, I ordered a Piranha Bar about a month ago and it got delivered today. I'll install it at some point this week and post some pictures/my opinion of how it works. I wanted one mainly to reduce strain on the FEL while digging. I slightly tweaked the FEL on my previously owner 4540 trying to dig through unbroken ground. Theoretically, the toothbar should help the cutting edge of the bucket break ground easier, reducing strain on the 5155's FEL.

As for the keeper pins DaBear, I haven't lost any yet on this tractor, but I do check them regularly. I lost some off of the 4540 a couple times, typically after working in/around brush.

 

[Andy1969]

It's ironic that you guys mentioned toothbars, I ordered a Piranha Bar about a month ago and it got delivered today. I'll install it at some point this week and post some pictures/my opinion of how it works. I wanted one mainly to reduce strain on the FEL while digging. I slightly tweaked the FEL on my previously owner 4540 trying to dig through unbroken ground. Theoretically, the toothbar should help the cutting edge of the bucket break ground easier, reducing strain on the 5155's FEL.

As for the keeper pins DaBear, I haven't lost any yet on this tractor, but I do check them regularly. I lost some off of the 4540 a couple times, typically after working in/around brush.

Walt, did the Piranha bar come with the hole pattern to match the bucket? I agree that for digging a tooth bar is the way to go. I’d be interested to know if the bar was a direct bolt on installation. And I haven’t had any pins fall off or loosen up yet either.

 

[Woodstock Walt]

Walt, did the Piranha bar come with the hole pattern to match the bucket? I agree that for digging a tooth bar is the way to go. I’d be interested to know if the bar was a direct bolt on installation. And I haven’t had any pins fall off or loosen up yet either.

Nope, it does not match the hole pattern of the bucket. The way it is designed, it basically clamps itself to the cutting edge with wedges, then is secured with one bolt on each end through the side of the bucket. So, drilling one hole on each end of the bucket is required to mount it. By the looks of it, the toothbar should extend under the bucket's cutting edge enough to cover the bolt holes, so if someone wanted to drill additional holes in the toothbar, they could add those bolts. I may do that for peace of mind, even though it'll likely be a lot of work drilling those holes... I'll know for sure once I try it on the bucket.

 

[Andy1969]

Thanks Walt. That’s pretty cool looking. Send some pics when you get it installed and let us know how it works for you. My 5155 digs well without the tooth bar, but I agree that a tooth bar would reduce how hard you have to push in order to dig. And this should reduce stresses on the loader and tractor over time.

 

[DaBear3428]

Nope, it does not match the hole pattern of the bucket. The way it is designed, it basically clamps itself to the cutting edge with wedges, then is secured with one bolt on each end through the side of the bucket. So, drilling one hole on each end of the bucket is required to mount it. By the looks of it, the toothbar should extend under the bucket's cutting edge enough to cover the bolt holes, so if someone wanted to drill additional holes in the toothbar, they could add those bolts. I may do that for peace of mind, even though it'll likely be a lot of work drilling those holes... I'll know for sure once I try it on the bucket.

just do 1 or 2 inthe center

 

[DaBear3428]

Yes, that one is a good reach up in there. It’s a 90 degree fitting pointed down towards the ground and while it’s a reach I was able to access from underneath the tractor. You probably could reach it easier from up top but as you said you’d have to pull some plastic covers off and then the fitting would be pointed in the wrong direction. I have a loc and lube fitting on my grease gun and a long hose. Makes these easier to service. There’s a fitting on the drivers side at a similar location next to the gas tank that is not easy to get at either. It actually had a 90 degree fitting on it too but it made it inaccessible. So I removed that and put a straight fitting on it that made it point straight down. Now I can get that one from below as well. Only the two under the floor mat for the clutch need to be accessed from topside. Hope this helps.

I love this thing

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002SR6XO?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

the locknlube is nice but expensive, this thing is cheap and can get onto fittings the locknlube can't

 

[Andy1969]

I love this thing

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002SR6XO?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

the locknlube is nice but expensive, this thing is cheap and can get onto fittings the locknlube can't

That looks pretty cool. Do you have that? I have one grease gun set up with an old school coupler and one set up with a locnlube. I like the latter but I agree there are situations where it won’t fit.

 

[DaBear3428]

That looks pretty cool. Do you have that? I have one grease gun set up with an old school coupler and one set up with a locnlube. I like the latter but I agree there are situations where it won’t fit.

I'm doing the same i have 1 gun setup with the locnlube and 1 with extra long hard piping with the side fitting, with that i can get to those fittings that point at a hard point (like one on the FEL lift cylinder) and some under the tractor when im too lazy to crawl on the ground i can just bend over and use the long hard tube to reach under and engage the fitting from the side (if that makes any since). it works good, slides on and pops into place, you just have to be close to a right angle to the fitting.

 

[Andy1969]

I'm doing the same i have 1 gun setup with the locnlube and 1 with extra long hard piping with the side fitting, with that i can get to those fittings that point at a hard point (like one on the FEL lift cylinder) and some under the tractor when im too lazy to crawl on the ground i can just bend over and use the long hard tube to reach under and engage the fitting from the side (if that makes any since). it works good, slides on and pops into place, you just have to be close to a right angle to the fitting.

I think the ultimate solution is a grease butler named something like Mr. Smythe. But I’ve had to reduce my personal staff due to inflation and the “transitory inflation”.

 

[DaBear3428]

I think the ultimate solution is a grease butler named something like Mr. Smythe. But I’ve had to reduce my personal staff due to inflation and the “transitory inflation”.

its "transitory" because it is transitioning to my wallet.

 

[Woodstock Walt]

Got the Piranha Bar installed this evening, then tried it out for an hour or so. I like it a lot! I'd never used a tooth bar on a tractor before, so I wasn't sure what to expect. But, I think it works very well. I agree that my 5155 has good digging capability without the tooth bar. But, to test it out I dug in to a high spot on my landing that I had been previously unsuccessful at excavating due to the density of stumps and roots. With the Piranha bar, the bucket sliced right through roots that would've normally hung up on the cutting edge. I successfully flattened the high spot and dumped the material into a large stump hole I had been meaning to fill. I also tried digging in to a bank of natural shale and granulated bed rock, the bucket most definitely scoops that stuff with more ease.

Install was pretty easy, just one 3/4" hole on each end (side) of the bucket to secure a bolt through. I used a mallet and a piece of firewood to pound the tooth bar snuggly onto the cutting edge, then installed the bolts. As shown in one of the attached photos, the Piranha bar doesn't extend far enough under the bucket to fully utilize the pre-drilled holes. However, the design of the wedges seem to hold it firmly in place on the cutting edge. If I have issues with it separating from the cutting edge, I'll find a way to better attach it.

 

[Andy1969]

Got the Piranha Bar installed this evening, then tried it out for an hour or so. I like it a lot! I'd never used a tooth bar on a tractor before, so I wasn't sure what to expect. But, I think it works very well. I agree that my 5155 has good digging capability without the tooth bar. But, to test it out I dug in to a high spot on my landing that I had been previously unsuccessful at excavating due to the density of stumps and roots. With the Piranha bar, the bucket sliced right through roots that would've normally hung up on the cutting edge. I successfully flattened the high spot and dumped the material into a large stump hole I had been meaning to fill. I also tried digging in to a bank of natural shale and granulated bed rock, the bucket most definitely scoops that stuff with more ease.

Install was pretty easy, just one 3/4" hole on each end (side) of the bucket to secure a bolt through. I used a mallet and a piece of firewood to pound the tooth bar snuggly onto the cutting edge, then installed the bolts. As shown in one of the attached photos, the Piranha bar doesn't extend far enough under the bucket to fully utilize the pre-drilled holes. However, the design of the wedges seem to hold it firmly in place on the cutting edge. If I have issues with it separating from the cutting edge, I'll find a way to better attach it.

Looks good Walt! Looks to fit the bucket perfectly. I think I’ll eventually get some sort of tooth bar since I do think it helps in digging especially in rocky soil like I have. But the finance department says that more tractor goodies aren’t in the budget right now unfortunately.

 

[SoldierP]

Walt...looks like a perfect fit. Do you recall what width you ordered. I can check that against my bucket width. Hopefully the same. Thanks

 

[Woodstock Walt]

Looks good Walt! Looks to fit the bucket perfectly. I think I’ll eventually get some sort of tooth bar since I do think it helps in digging especially in rocky soil like I have. But the finance department says that more tractor goodies aren’t in the budget right now unfortunately.

Thank you, Andy! Yes, fit very well. And I know what you mean, tractor parts/tools/accessories add up very quickly these days... Just for reference this tooth bar was $401, plus $50 shipping to Maine.

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to tell you. I looked into ordering some Schaeffer's 315 Simplex Supreme hydraulic fluid the other day, as my 5155 is nearing the 50 hr. mark at 42 hrs. Seems to be nationally out of stock/backordered until further notice, which is disappointing. I looked into ordering some about a month ago and it was readily available at that time... Sucks.

I ended up ordering 15 gallons of AMSOIL THF. I compared the data sheets, and found the properties of Schaeffer's oil was slightly better than AMSOIL, but not by much. I believe Schaeffer's had a pour point of -52*F vs. -47*F from AMSOIL. I guess I can live with that since the AMSOIL was readily available, although it was more expensive.

If you happen order AMSOIL, do it straight from their product site. The price is similar wherever you get it from, but if you order it from AMSOIL you have the option of buying a 6 month "Prefered Customer" account for $10. Doing that saved me over $200 on the 15 gallons of oil. So, definitely worth it.

Walt...looks like a perfect fit. Do you recall what width you ordered. I can check that against my bucket width. Hopefully the same. Thanks

I do! 77.75", and I believe it is the perfect width. The sides of our buckets are slightly tapered towards to rear, so as the tooth bar is wedged onto the cutting edge, the mounting tabs bend slightly inwards, putting spring tension on the tabs and keeping the bar firmly in place.

One difference I have noticed between the Piranha Bar and EA's Wicked Tooth Bar, is that with EA you give them 3 separate dimensions, including the inside width of the bucket and total width of the cutting edge. So, the bars they build extend fully to the edge of the bucket's original cutting edge.

With Piranha Bar, you only give them the inside width. Still a quality product for sure, but the cutting edge of the tooth bar is slightly shorter than the cutting edge of the bucket, since that dimension wasn't taken into account for them, you get what you get. My biggest reason for ordering Piranha over EA was simply EA's shipping policy, they won't ship anything to Maine, due to tax reasons I was told. My only option for having the Wicked Bar shipped to me was to drive to a FedEx shipping hub in NH (about 2.5 hrs. away) and pick it up.

 

[Andy1969]

Thank you, Andy! Yes, fit very well. And I know what you mean, tractor parts/tools/accessories add up very quickly these days... Just for reference this tooth bar was $401, plus $50 shipping to Maine.

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to tell you. I looked into ordering some Schaeffer's 315 Simplex Supreme hydraulic fluid the other day, as my 5155 is nearing the 50 hr. mark at 42 hrs. I seems to be nationally out of stock/backordered until further notice, which is disappointing. I looked into ordering some about a month ago and it was readily available at that time... Sucks.

I ended up ordering 15 gallons of AMSOIL THF. I compared the data sheets, and found the properties of Schaeffer's oil was slightly better than AMSOIL, but not by much. I believe Schaeffer's had a pour point of -52*F vs. -47*F from AMSOIL. I guess I can live with that since the AMSOIL was readily available, although it was more expensive.

If you happen order AMSOIL, do it straight from their product site. The price is similar wherever you get it from, but if you order it from AMSOIL you have the option of buying a 6 month "Prefered Customer" account for $10. Doing that saved me over $200 on the 15 gallons of oil. So, definitely worth it.




I do! 77.75", and I believe it is the perfect width. The sides of our buckets are slightly tapered towards to rear, so as the tooth bar is wedged onto the cutting edge, the mounting tabs bend slightly inwards, putting spring tension on the tabs and keeping the bar firmly in place.

One difference I have noticed between the Piranha Bar and EA's Wicked Tooth Bar, is that with EA you give them 3 separate dimensions, including the inside width of the bucket and total width of the cutting edge. So, the bar's they build extend fully to the edge of the bucket's original cutting edge.

With Piranha Bar, you only give them the inside width. Still a quality product for sure, but the cutting edge of the tooth bar is slightly shorter than the cutting edge of the bucket, since that dimension wasn't taken into account for them, you get what you get. My biggest reason for ordering Piranha over EA was simply EA's shipping policy, they won't ship anything to Maine, due to tax reasons I was told. My only option for having the Wicked Bar shipped to me was to drive to a FedEx shipping hub in NH (about 2.5 hrs. away) and pick it up.

Walt thanks for the pricing on the tooth bar. That seems reasonable all things considered for a quality product. And yea that’s a bummer on the Schaeffer’s. I say that because I’ve used it in my other tractors and have about 3 gallons l ft from when I switched my little Yanmar to it. So I was going to get 2 five gallon bucket’s of it and that would have been enough for the Mahindra. I use many Amsoil products and actually use their motor oil in my tractors. I have enough of that on my shelf for a couple oil changes. I think I’ll stop at my NAPA store Friday (vacation day) and see if they have any idea when the Schaeffer’s might be available. I had actually looked at that same exact Amsoil tractor fluid when I wanted to go synthetic. But landed on the Schaeffer’s based on price and nearly identical specs. So yeah I’ve done the preferred customer thing with them and I’m sure I’ll renew that for my next buy. If the Simplex Supreme isn’t going to be available for an extended time, I’ll likely go with the Amsoil product. They’re both top notch.

 

[SoldierP]

Walt...thank you for the info on the Piranha and also why you chose it over EA. VERY helpful! The EA is about 50% more in cost. My bucket is also 77.75". Very interesting about the EA shipping policy.

 

[DaBear3428]

That looks pretty cool. Do you have that? I have one grease gun set up with an old school coupler and one set up with a locnlube. I like the latter but I agree there are situations where it won’t fit.

Yes I have 1 gun set up with that on it and a second with the locnlube. I like both and they complement each other the main diff is that the locnlube with their grease gun set me back $100 while the other setup was only about 45