George2615
Super Member
Scroll down to the bottom of the page for similar threads. Floppy bucket has been addressed many times before and the cure worked for mine.
LS Tractor Floppy Bucket Syndrome?
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CADplans
Elite Member
We all know,, that if the OP installs the $1.50 restrictor fitting in the bucket dump hose,,,
there will be a thread about how he can no longer get the dirt out of the bucket properly,,,
Fast dumping is a great feature,, as far as emptying the bucket fully,,
I see a lot of different answers, none seem to say they got rid of it altogether. Can you tell me which one worked for you?
Nah, I want to fix it not cover it up. But if I can finally fix it 100%, I will post and let you know know what I did. :laughing:
Avenger
Veteran Member
If you truly wish to fix your floppy bucket, then you will need a pump that can keep up, most likely with a flow restrictor valve. OR a new loader control valve with a closed circuit.
Deplorable Diesel has a really good pump. Check out this thread: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...mp-upgrade-deplorable-diesel.html#post5761088
I installed this flow control valve on the return line for the curl: Prince WFC-6 Wolverine Flow Control Valve, Carbon Steel, In-Line, 8 gpm Max Flow, 3/8" NPTF: Hydraulic Directional Control Valves: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
And here is the video of me installing the valve and 'fixing' the issue: LS XR4145C - Part 3 - Loader Fixed? - YouTube
Allows me to dial in the flow. But it's not perfect. And I still get the floppy bucket when running at low RPM. Something I have tried to avoid. At high, operating RPM I don't have the issue much at all. And I have learned to live with it. You said you watch my videos, I use my FEL all the time and I don't have an issue. I addressed the issue, at first, on camera and showed my 'fix.' That was the last you have heard me say anything about it, because it's not an issue.
I do plan on getting the new pump, when my warranty is out, and I am sure that will solve the floppy bucket issue all together. However, it is very expensive.
I am guess you plan on spending whatever it takes to fix these issues to sell the tractor??
I cannot wait to see your LS buyers guide too. Maybe I'll make one as a rebuttal, after all, the buyer should make a completely informed decision with all available information in order to make a smart buying decision.
I know that you are upset about your LS tractor being a lemon, and the dealer network that has let you down. You have made that abundantly clear. However, it is clearly your sarcastic negative attitude that drives people to either not respond (your dealer) or to respond negatively back toward you. I get why you do it, to avoid sounding completely pissed off!, but you are not helping yourself either. You watch my videos, probably have read my posts before (that don't have anything to do with you) so you should know that I will do what ever I can to help those who are in need. That is the sole reason I make my videos, not to show issues or complain about things breaking, but how to help those who need it, to show off this tractor and MY experiences with it both negative and positive. If my tractor was a lemon, I'd post about it, and I would also keep my calm when speaking to those who might be able to help me. I would avoid having a negative sarcastic attitude. You have a problem? Great, lets fix it. You need to vent? Do it elsewhere. Your dealer and this forum are probably not a good place to vent. Just my .02
Deplorable Diesel has a really good pump. Check out this thread: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...mp-upgrade-deplorable-diesel.html#post5761088
I installed this flow control valve on the return line for the curl: Prince WFC-6 Wolverine Flow Control Valve, Carbon Steel, In-Line, 8 gpm Max Flow, 3/8" NPTF: Hydraulic Directional Control Valves: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
And here is the video of me installing the valve and 'fixing' the issue: LS XR4145C - Part 3 - Loader Fixed? - YouTube
Allows me to dial in the flow. But it's not perfect. And I still get the floppy bucket when running at low RPM. Something I have tried to avoid. At high, operating RPM I don't have the issue much at all. And I have learned to live with it. You said you watch my videos, I use my FEL all the time and I don't have an issue. I addressed the issue, at first, on camera and showed my 'fix.' That was the last you have heard me say anything about it, because it's not an issue.
I do plan on getting the new pump, when my warranty is out, and I am sure that will solve the floppy bucket issue all together. However, it is very expensive.
I am guess you plan on spending whatever it takes to fix these issues to sell the tractor??
I cannot wait to see your LS buyers guide too. Maybe I'll make one as a rebuttal, after all, the buyer should make a completely informed decision with all available information in order to make a smart buying decision.
I know that you are upset about your LS tractor being a lemon, and the dealer network that has let you down. You have made that abundantly clear. However, it is clearly your sarcastic negative attitude that drives people to either not respond (your dealer) or to respond negatively back toward you. I get why you do it, to avoid sounding completely pissed off!, but you are not helping yourself either. You watch my videos, probably have read my posts before (that don't have anything to do with you) so you should know that I will do what ever I can to help those who are in need. That is the sole reason I make my videos, not to show issues or complain about things breaking, but how to help those who need it, to show off this tractor and MY experiences with it both negative and positive. If my tractor was a lemon, I'd post about it, and I would also keep my calm when speaking to those who might be able to help me. I would avoid having a negative sarcastic attitude. You have a problem? Great, lets fix it. You need to vent? Do it elsewhere. Your dealer and this forum are probably not a good place to vent. Just my .02
RSR
Platinum Member
I've never had a problem with it. My understanding is it occurs due to running the tractor at too low of RPM and the pump not being able to keep up, which sucks air into the line. As others have mentioned, the fix for getting the air out is very easy.
As LS tractors should be run at high RPM, it seems if you are getting floppy bucket syndrome, it is a user operation error. When my dealer dropped my tractor off he STRESSED corporate was telling all dealers that tractors should be run at 1800+ RPM ALWAYS, after the 1-2 minute warm up. I've followed that and never had any issue.
Or, is there something else I'm missing?
As LS tractors should be run at high RPM, it seems if you are getting floppy bucket syndrome, it is a user operation error. When my dealer dropped my tractor off he STRESSED corporate was telling all dealers that tractors should be run at 1800+ RPM ALWAYS, after the 1-2 minute warm up. I've followed that and never had any issue.
Or, is there something else I'm missing?
Maxify55
Gold Member
Yeah, I’ve got 900+ hrs on mine. Does it do it?
Sure but there are SO many things it does FAR beyond its’ capabilities that I just leave the tilt control in position a tad longer.
Problem solved.
Sure but there are SO many things it does FAR beyond its’ capabilities that I just leave the tilt control in position a tad longer.
Problem solved.
PCABE5
Platinum Member
Boy reading this thread is sure interesting.
First, I would say that the hydraulic valves used by LS are Italian and are not a cheap valve. I find they have less internal leakage than any of my John Deere compacts.
Second, it's been thrown out there but this valve doesn't have fast dump or regen.
Third, is it the valve or the loader design? I'm thinking loader.
Fourth, my New Holland doesn't have this issue so the difference between the two is the loaders.
Fifth, remove your YouTube link in the first post or make the video public again.
DK35vince
Super Member
Yes its that simple
