Looking at JD 2210, 4010

   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #11  
Those prices are cheaper than what I got from 2 different JD dealers last October. My 4010 cost $13,600 for hydro, FEL and LX4. The LX4 was $1,000. The 4010 was $300 less than a 2210 and $2,000 less than a 4110.

Ralph
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #12  
Ralph,

Most of us realize your pricing numbers are slanted, both geographially, and towards whatever inventory your dealer needed to move. I don't personally know the sales totals for each Deere model, although I'll bet some of the other posters can to verify them; but there's a heck of a lot more 2210's being sold today than there are 4010's. Why? I'll let you answer this.

But, whatever the number's are, and though my perspective may disagree with your "that of your inside the industry views", I'm sorry to say that it is you that has brought these responses on; my intentions were never to knock the 4010, nor were they to wave the flag of the 2210. However, for some time you have continued to denegrate the performance of the 2210; while at the same time elevating that of the 4010. Even worse, oftentimes this was accomplished using incorrect performance data.

These are the facts. They may be unsettling. However, they are the facts.

Past that, several comments from your last post require redress: "Those prices are cheaper than what I got from 2 different JD dealers last October. My 4010 cost $13,600 for hydro, FEL and LX4. The LX4 was $1,000. The 4010 was $300 less than a 2210 and $2,000 less than a 4110."

Very nice. Anecdotal comments. And just what they are: annecdotal. Many of us, for whatever reason, have been able to negotiate better deals. Therefore, why don't we all just agree and leave it at it, that Green has done a good job at marketing their products to us, in the process figuring clever ways of propping up that image up after the fact. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

So you can see, this can go on all night. If you continue to bash other tractors and tractors that other posters have chosen, you will continue to stir the wrath of others on this forum. It's your choice. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #13  
Just took delivery of a new 2210 with 62C mower deck. It's been very painful with this perpetual smile on my face. I'm quite please with this decision so far.

I looked into the 4010 and 2210 before deciding. It's like looking at two awsome tractors and picking which best fits your needs. The 2210 has a much friendlier setup to support the 62C deck. It also fits better in my garage. The engine has more HP but the tires are smaller. I particularly liked the fact that the rear fenders were molded plastic (very strong and will never rust). Both units have the ability to do a specific task a bit better than the other. It all depends if you'll ever use this "better" feature. For me, the 2210 performed better that the 4010 for MY tasks. I also looked at and drove the following:

Case DX22E
Cub Cadet 5000 Series
Cub Cadet M60 Tank
Steiner 415
Steiner 230
Ventrac 4200
Kobota BX series
John Deere 4000 series
John Deere 2000 series
Exmark ZTR
Kobota ZTR

This was a year long search that brought me to the 2210. I'm very pleased and it does just what I though it would do and more. Would not have made any different decision.
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #14  
Hey, JDFanatic...I didn't read Ralph's post as bashing the 2210. I read plenty of posts by Ralph and others who are just proud tractor owners, and have a need to validate their reasoning for their purchase...like my posts. Having owned both a 2210 and, now, a 4110, I don't mind a proud owner differentiating their purchase with a nearby model. While I disagree with some of the comparisons, It's all still in the family /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I do feel the 4110 is the "sweet spot" for my needs. The 2210 had everything I needed, but i've never been known for be happy with that. Here's my best tool at its best:
 

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   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #15  
The Rubble Pile
 

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   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #16  
1st.... bigpete... Why did you tear up that perfect driveway??? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I would be happy if mine only had one crack!
The person I bought the house from had it paved 4 years ago. I wish he paved my road too. That would make all the winter months easier and not too mention I would not be grading in the summer. VT is all about dirt roads and this is my contribution I guess.

As for JDFanatic, I am onboard with him. For the last year I have had subtle put downs of the 2210 over and over. I totally agree that each tractor has a place in the heart of the right individual. I just feel that some people try to steer newbie's to their machine just to build up a following. When comparing machines they should be "Fair and Balanced" (sorry FOX News, don't sue me too for using that line).


Again, Why oh Why did you tear up that driveway. I think my heart skipped a <font color="red">beat</font>.
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #17  
I'm not bashing the 2210. Came very close to buying one. Prefer to have cruise control instead of a cup holder and wanted the dual brakes and higher ground clearance for my rough property. Glad I bought the 4010 and saved the $300. It bought me a toothbar, which I've hardly used though.

For MM mowing or for going a bit faster with a tiller, the 2210 works better (think the tiller is maybe the only tool that you could possibly use that extra hp on).

Ralph
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #19  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The Rubble Pile )</font>

How you going to get rid of that pile out of curiosity? these days land fills give especially diffcult times and question all dumps, asphalt in particular...

I ripped up most of my drivway using my toothbar -however the pro's took the asphalt away -thank God

Ducati
 
   / Looking at JD 2210, 4010 #20  
Hey Ducati, I ripped up quite a bit of asphault from my driveway and loaded it in my pickup and took it to a Waste Management landfill and paid by the pound to get rid of it. It ended up costing me like $ 60 to get rid of 2000 lbs. of asphault (if I remember quickly /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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