Loader question

[gmol]

in DK35vinces photo it shows how the arms do not fully retract. Why do they all seem to be like this ? If the upper holes were higher the arms would fully retract, the curl back angle better , and a greater mechanical advantage for curl back power etc. Is Kioti monitoring any if this ????????? DO any dealers that are monitoring this forum, I know you are out there, have anything to add.???

 

[DK35vince]

Here is another photo of the quick attach from a differant angle.
I don't have a digital camera to get pictures of my loader and bucket,These photos are from my dealers website.

 

[lamarbur]

those curling arms where the piston connects, if they were raised or lengthened a few inches, you would gain tremendous roll and dump angles..

 

[JASTN70D]

It looks like the holes are the same distance apart for the bucket. So maybe as in the bucket an extra set of holes is required. It sure seems it would work and not that risky I don't believe it would weaken the quick attach. But it is not something that is clear in the picture as even an option

 

[JASTN70D]

Has your roll back issue been a problem from the start.? And are there 2 hole sets on the quick attach.?

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( those curling arms where the piston connects, if they were raised or lengthened a few inches, you would gain tremendous roll and dump angles.. )</font>

The way I had it figured is the higher the curling arms are raised the more leverage (power) will increase, but my roll back or dump angles will decrease.
I'll need to do some measuring to know for sure and see what a happy medium would be.

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It looks like the holes are the same distance apart for the bucket. So maybe as in the bucket an extra set of holes is required. It sure seems it would work and not that risky I don't believe it would weaken the quick attach. But it is not something that is clear in the picture as even an option
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The quick attach is strong enough to add an extra set of holes with no problem.
The only thing I need to work around is the Quick attach cross braces.

 

[lamarbur]

remember the old lengthen the shackle arms to raise the back of cars? Make some temp shackle arms, use long bolts and see where the best leverage spot will be. Other than four strips of steel and a couple of bolts. you may be able to figure a good spot to reset the piston arms

 

[DK35vince]

My quick attach is slightly differant from the one in the photo.
Instead of bars for cross braces, mine uses a solid plate all the way across the front and half way down the back of the quick attach.

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Make some temp shackle arms, use long bolts and see where the best leverage spot will be. Other than four strips of steel and a couple of bolts. you may be able to figure a good spot to reset the piston arms )</font>

No Problem ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I will get to work on that the first chance I get.

 

[Justaplain]

I still question the need for all the fancy linkage at the bucket [dump] on my 1450. My bucket rolls to far back now since I modified it and the dump goes beyond verticle. Forgot alot of my Physics teachings, but could you attach the present cylinders directly to the bucket?????????? Shorter cylinders?????? combination of the two????
The restrictor valve is a must, but I don't have mine on yet. bcs

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( could you attach the present cylinders directly to the bucket? )</font>

The present cylinders are far to short to use directly to the bucket.You would need to replace them with longer cylinders, but before I get the dump angles I would like the cylinders would hit the loader frame so I would need to modify more things than I would like.
The fancy linkage does give much better roll and dump angles but the way they are set up also forfeits some power.
I think my best and easiest bet and still maintain most of my roll and dump angles is to make some minor modifications to the linkage and add 2" cylinders.
I am checking out a set of cylinders at www.surpluscenter.com that I may be able to make work .

 

[rback33]

What loader model are we talking about? I thought it was a KL1450, but those pics are NOT of a standard KL1450 and Skid steer quick attach. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[gmol]

My loader is a 1595 w/quick attach on a DK 55 and it is a thing of its' own imagination. Not to be confused with the Vince35 DK 35I will try to get a pic of the tractor loader today. No roll back balls form the get go .

 

[DK35vince]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What loader model are we talking about? I thought it was a KL1450, but those pics are NOT of a standard KL1450 and Skid steer quick attach. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )</font>

My loader is a KL1450.
In some of my posts I do mention that I have no digital camera to take pictures of my loader and quick attach and these photos were from my dealers website to show how the pins go to the quick attach and not the bucket .
I also mention in one of my posts that my quick attach is slightly differant with a solid plate across the front and half way down the back.

 

[RedDog]

Gmol, DK35Vince,

Don't take this the wrong way, but why would you guys go through all this if your tractor is still under warranty /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Shouldn't your dealer be dealing with this instead of you?

I can understand making changes if your tractor is out of warranty.

Good luck, RedDog <font color="orange"> Kioti DK65 </font>

 

[gmol]

My dealer is really trying to help. Kioti is the problem. No other loader options for DK 55 as of now.

 

[DK35vince]

RedDog,
My tractor is 2 years old.
My tractor is still under warrenty, my loader is not.
I had a 3 year warranty on the tractor and a 1 year warranty on the loader.