Loader question

DK35vince · Nov 18, 2003

( Is your loader a self leveling loader ? )

No, it is not self leveling.
Part of the problem with roll back power(in my opinion) is in order to get more bucket dump and rollback angles the pivot pins and cylinder pins at the bucket are to close together, losing to much leverage.
Most other loaders I have looked at the pins are spaced farther apart.

gmol · Nov 19, 2003

Spoke to Kioti today and they have never heard of lack of roll back. If anything it is too strong !!!!!!!! Then called my dealer and he is sure the problem is that the holes for the upper and lower pins are too close together. You should check that out before buying new cylinders and upping pressures. I am investigating on this end. The farther apart the holes the more leverage and vice a versa.

DK35vince · Nov 19, 2003

( Spoke to Kioti today and they have never heard of lack of roll back. If anything it is too strong !!!!!!!! )

Well I quess my idea of good roll back power and their idea of good roll back power are completely different.

DK35vince · Nov 19, 2003

After nearly 2 years of ownership and 200 hours this is my opinion on my DK 35.
Fit, finish,features,quality,comfort and performance of tractor = Excellent
Loader mounting system and loader frame quality = very good
Loader lift capacity = Good
Loader roll back power = Gimpy

dieselsmoke1 · Nov 19, 2003

( 
Part of the problem with roll back power(in my opinion) is in order to get more bucket dump and rollback angles the pivot pins and cylinder pins at the bucket are to close together, losing to much leverage.
)

I checked mine out of curiousity, 7.25" OC. Another set at 9.75" OC, never tried them. What are yours?

DK35vince · Nov 19, 2003

Center of pin to center of pin = 5"

dieselsmoke1 · Nov 19, 2003

Would something like this change the geometry?

DK35vince · Nov 19, 2003

Slightly more extreme than I was thinking about, but yes.

dieselsmoke1 · Nov 19, 2003

What's a little "extreme" if you're having fun /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

JASTN70D · Nov 21, 2003

After reading all the posts for some time I decided on the Kioti DK55 with FEL. Placed the order and waiting for shipment. Now I am somewhat concerned about the roll back issue. Has there been any resolution to this yet.?

John

gmol · Nov 21, 2003

According to Kioti there is no problem. The pin spacing on the 1595 loader is 5" as well. Let me know what you find with your loader. My dealer is still trying ot get me a bnew loader but there are no other options for the DK 55 at the moment. A welder buddy of mine is going to help me in the spring , if Kioti does nnot come through, and we are going to move the upper pins loacation.

JASTN70D · Nov 21, 2003

Thanks

I will let you know how mine works when i finaly get it.!

JASTN70D · Nov 22, 2003

Vince

I was at my dealer today and checked out the pins on the FEL for the DK35. The bucket had 2 sets of holes in it for attaching the pins. I don't know if that is new or you are using the quick attach and it is different. the dealer stated the 1595 loader had 2 sets also.

John

DK35vince · Nov 22, 2003

I have the quick attach and heavy duty bucket which at least on mine only has 1 set of holes.
I may need to take a trip to the dealer and look closer at the bucket attachments.
I have not been to the dealer for nearly 2 years, so the newer models may have some changes.

JerryG · Nov 23, 2003

Vince,
When you bought your tractor and loader, did you notice if the buckets that the dealer was using was indeed Kioti or could they have been from another vendor?

DK35vince · Nov 23, 2003

Jerry,
The standard buckets I believe were kioti.
But for a $500 option I ordered the skid steer style quick attach system which came with a heavy duty bucket , so my pins go to the quick attach and not the bucket.
This bucket is much heavy duty than the standard bucket.
If this bucket is Kioti or not I don't Know.
I attached a photo of a quick attach very similar to mine on a Kioti loader that shows the loader pins and linkage .

JerryG · Nov 23, 2003

What is was getting at, buckets are ordered separately. A dealer could order a less expensive one to cut cost instead of ordering the name brand. If the dealer had done this, then there is a chance that the supplier placed the pin holes at the wrong spacing for your specific loader.

DK35vince · Nov 23, 2003

The pin holes are on the quick attach, if the pin holes are in the wrong place it would have to be there, (I attached a photo in my last post to give an idea what I mean).
Any bucket or forks I hook into only have the slots for the quick attach to latch into so they would make no differance with this setup.

JerryG · Nov 23, 2003

Then it should be right, because the QA should be from Kioti. Back to square one again.

DK35vince · Nov 23, 2003

( Then it should be right, because the QA should be from Kioti. Back to square one again. )

It should be but mine is slightly differant from the one in the photo, so it still may be something for me to check into.