Tires Liquid in Tires

/ Liquid in Tires #21  
Thanks for the comments on the anti-freeze. I'd actually forgotten about the animal angle! I was briefed recently that, yes, cats and dogs will lap it up. That's assuming it comes out of the tires (which is the whole thing on environment, anyway). This is one of those -- "I won't really have an alternative" situations.

John
 
/ Liquid in Tires #22  
I believe my large R4's took40 gallons each of Rim Guard. Even that is not enough bal;last for a goodbucket fullof dirt. I've had a rear tire up in the air as far as it couldgo before the front pivot bottomed out quite a few times. Definitely need rear hanging weight...
 
/ Liquid in Tires #23  
I filled my tires with Propylene glycol, a food grade non toxic antifreeze that also has rust inhibitors in it.

I install it into hydronic heating systems up here in the North. But it is the same thing Walmart sells to winterize RVs.

I put in 25 gallons in each tire and then 10 gallons of water.
It added about 550 pounds to the tractor.

The only thing you have to be careful with is Galvinized steel doesn't like Propylene glycol. The glycol will react with it.

It is a little pricey but I am hoping I don't have to do it very often.

Dave in NH
 
/ Liquid in Tires #24  
In my neck of the woods, windsheild wiper fluid (-20F) is the going thing! Added about 1000 lbs to the tractor. I put 55 gallons (perfect amount to fill to a level of the valve stem at 12:00) in each of my R-4's on a Kioti DK45s. Wiper fluid cost was $100, best friend has a auto parts store....... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Dealer was out of concentrate and we used his pump!
 
/ Liquid in Tires #25  
Here in South East Michigan some of us are using Beet juice yes made from real Beets, it was developed, as I was told at Michigan State University for tractors and at my place temps. get down to 10-20 below without the wind factor, have had it in my JD770 for 7-8 years no trouble in hot or cold won't rot rims and the oil in the juice is supposed to keep tires from rotting. Weight is about the same as calcium chloride price about same too. Wash up with soap & water.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #26  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( In my neck of the woods, windsheild wiper fluid (-20F) is the going thing! Added about 1000 lbs to the tractor. I put 55 gallons (perfect amount to fill to a level of the valve stem at 12:00) in each of my R-4's on a Kioti DK45s. Wiper fluid cost was $100, best friend has a auto parts store....... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Dealer was out of concentrate and we used his pump! )</font>


Windshield washer fluid weighs over 9 lbs per gallon?
 
/ Liquid in Tires #27  
I couldn't help myself so I figured it out. Wiper fluid composition is 70% water and 30% methanol. Water weights 8.34 lb. per gallon and methanol weights 6.64 lb. per gallon. I put exactly 56 gallons of fluid in each of my R-4's. If my math is correct, I added approximately 874 lbs. to the tractor.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #28  
I did the WW fluid also. At -20.... well if it gets colder than that without wind chill, the tractor will be inside...... as will I /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mine took about 45 gal/tire to the top of the rim. On the bathroom scale a gal of ww is 8lb, close enough. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I got the liquid adapter from TSC and gravity fed the WW into the tires. It took a while, but it is mostly a one handed job so you have a free hand for a beer or soda. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Liquid in Tires #29  
Don't forget the old schoolroom demonstration. 1 gallon of water and 1 gallon of alcohol do not make 2 gallons of solution. Due to how the water and alcohol molecules fit together - if I recall you'll lose roughly about 5% of the expected volume.

So in your 70/30 formation - a gallon of finished mix should have weighed in the neighborhood of 8.22 lbs (not the 7.83 lbs you expected) - for a total of around 921 lbs. in your tires.

I think.

Bonus. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
/ Liquid in Tires #31  
John,

I recently filled the rear tires on my little Yanmar 1700. It is 2wd and you need all you can get when pulling a 5' scrape blade with crush and run flowing over the top.

I purchased the air stem adapter from TSC for about $10.00 and used the antifreeze that is environmentally safe. I can't remember the name, but suposedly will not hurt animals and the such. Purchased at Advance Auto. I had a drill pump that I used to transfer the antifreeze and then you connect to your garden hose and fill.

I haven't read the other threads; might have already been mentioned.

Fig
 
/ Liquid in Tires #32  
Gentelmen,

I just put rimguard in my 2210 rears. I've seen rims replaced becasue of CaCL and didn't want to deal with the hassle 5-15 years from now. It took some time on the phone finding a dealer, I ended up taking the tires and driving 30 miles to get them filled at a small tire shop.

I asked a local Kubota dealer why he didn't carry Rimguard and he said you couldn't mix it with other products, so coupled with the low demand and high price, they still use CaCL about 90% of the time.

Price was $3 gallon, we broke the seals and dumped in about 10 gallons per tire. It's pretty thick reddish stuff, so it very well could be the beet juice product gpod was talking about earlier. I think RimGuard is headquartered in Michigan as well, so it makes sense.

Hope this info helps a little.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #33  
Does anybody know of a rimguard dealer in Texas?

Thanks,
D.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #34  
I had a 3520 with cab, i put Fluid in all the tires, front and rear....I lost a lot of power when i did that, especially going down the road at full speed....thought the tractor had problems because of lack of power, had it put on the dyno and checked over....came to the conclusion that it was all the added weight. I now have a 4720 and went with wheel weights on the rear, and the loader is all the weight i need on the front....just something to think about when adding fluid.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #35  
I am going to price wheel weights for both my 4520 cab and 5525 cab.

How much weight can I put on each?

How much did it cost you?

Thanks,
D.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #36  
Methinal doesn't hurt your rims,and I'm sure it and water is cheaper. It weighs about same as just water though.
 
/ Liquid in Tires #37  
Real John Deere owners use scotch.
And not any of the blended junk, we're talking single malt.

Then when you get a flat, you just get down there and sip on it. Then the flat don't seem like such a big deal...
 
/ Liquid in Tires #38  
Well now that just seems like a waste,oh,forgot you said john deere owners,ok,makes sense now:D
 
/ Liquid in Tires #39  
John,

I recently filled the rear tires on my little Yanmar 1700. It is 2wd and you need all you can get when pulling a 5' scrape blade with crush and run flowing over the top.

I purchased the air stem adapter from TSC for about $10.00 and used the antifreeze that is environmentally safe. I can't remember the name, but suposedly will not hurt animals and the such. Purchased at Advance Auto. I had a drill pump that I used to transfer the antifreeze and then you connect to your garden hose and fill.

I haven't read the other threads; might have already been mentioned.


Fig




Was the brand "Sierra" for the antifreeze?



Steve
 

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