Lifting backhoe attachment using front loader

[draku007]

I知 purchasing Woods 7500 backhoe with subframes and the only option to load it and offload it on and off the trailer will be to use the front loader. The tractor has the lift power but wanted to see if anyone have done such project and if you have any recommendations for me - loading, offloading, securing, etc... I値l be renting heavy duty 14x6 trailer.
The backhoe is 3h away from me so I need to make sure it can all happen at one shot.

Thanks

 

[Stimw]

They are hard to move because they have no real balance point.
As soon as you start lifting the boom will shift, usually a direction you don't want.
I have loaded one that I sold using tractor forks and it was tricky.
Make sure you have plenty of chains and straps to secure the boom to the main structure and to keep the outriggers retracted.
Extra blocks might come in handy, a com-a-long or two also.
When rigging I always take way more than necessary to be ready for anything.
I hope the price is right, I bought this one new/free shipping for $3400.

 

[Industrial Toys]

So you are taking your tractor on the trailer to get the hoe? What about mounting it on the tractor?

I wouldn't like the idea of using a bucket, even with hooks. It's just too unprecise. Also a bucket doesn't give you much depth to lift something fairly large. I use forks with holes in the end for hooks so the chains come straight down, and you can see what's happening. I mean, if that's all you have. I would use slings on the hoe, rather than chains.

 

[draku007]

@industrial toys - the seller has a tractor which were using to load and I’ll use my tractor back home to offload. I’ll bring some slings as well.
Thanks!

 

[draku007]

Stimw- I was looking at the same backhoe you have but decided to go with the subframe option - $4k and really good condition.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I really like to use shackles too. They can't come undone like a grab hook.

If you have to get off your tractor forty times to check things, do it. Don't be in a hurry or ever assume anything. Be safe.

 

[draku007]

As far as tying the backhoe to the trailer I was thinking about these straps from Lowe’s - SmartStraps 2-in x 20-ft Tow Strap Tie Down (5666-lbs Work Capacity). What do you think?

 

[Industrial Toys]

You can never have enough slings. Sometimes a three foot sling is incredibly usefull and a long one, would be hard to use.

 

[4570Man]

Are you sure your tractor will pick it up? It weighs about 1000 pound and the tractor is rated to lift about that much but its balanced way out in front. I wouldn’t count on it working. You need ratchet straps not tow straps. A couple 2” straps will be fine.

 

[countrybumpkin]

I moved mine a couple of times using the FEL with no issues. It may take a couple of times changing around the hook point to get it balanced. If the tractor is pushing the limits as for weight , if you can get the trailer to the hoe, just lift it with the tractor and back the trailer under it’s you don’t have to move the tractor with the hoe in the air. Also take a couple of ropes to tie onto the hoe unit to allow two people to use as guide ropes so no one is near it just incase something was to come loose while lifting.

Take several pieces of 2x4 and 4x4 to use as cribbing when you set it on the trailer. 2-4 2” ratchet tie downs would work good.

 

[Jchonline]

The safest way is to make a pallet and then put it on the tie it down well. Then you can lift it with forks. Do you have the lift capacity for this?

 

[Industrial Toys]

Moot point if he doesn't have forks.

Even with forks, hard to justify the time and energy for one move. A regular skid would not be big enough. So you get or make a longer one. Now, you have a lot more weight farther away.

 

[old and tired]

Don't use the FEL; Use his tractor's 3ph to back it onto the trailer, set it down, remove it from the 3ph and strap it down. Use your tractor back home to reattach to 3ph. BTDT...

 

[mike48130]

I've moved my 3pt several times. Works better with forks and 2 or 3 slings to get it balanced. I put on one each of the stabilizers and one on the boom. Then slow and easy.

 

[Fallon]

As far as tying the backhoe to the trailer I was thinking about these straps from Lowe’s - SmartStraps 2-in x 20-ft Tow Strap Tie Down (5666-lbs Work Capacity). What do you think?

Use chain instead of straps.

Straps will work fine if you get a straight shot from anchor to anchor. But you run into chafing issues if the go over any metal.

My first test tow of my L3200 I used some heavy (4"?) straps over the front bumper. Square stock, slightly rounded corners, or at least not sharp in the slightest. Cut half way through the straps up front in a mile or 2 of rough road. I promptly switched to chain. I still have the straps & great anti-chafing guards, but they just aren't worth the effort & risk vs. chain.

It sounds like you are rightly concerned about moving that impliment properly. Trying to get straps on so they cant come free & cant hit a corner much less sharp edge will be WAY more work. It could be done, but chain will be safer & easier.

 

[George2615]

I bought a Woods BH7500 w/ subframe a few years ago. I lifted it with 2 chains to hooks on my bucket and used a 3rd chain from bucket around the hoe arm to prevent the teeter totter effect. I took my tractor to where the BH was, drove over the subframe so it was under the tractor and used two chains to lift off the ground. I then drove it onto my tilt bed trailer slowly with a buddy on each side guiding it so it wouldn't swing. I only had a 4 mile trip to bring it home. I should have taken pics but didn't think about it at the time.

Does the current owner have a front loader to get it on your trailer?

 

[Jaylegger]

I'd put a strap/chain around each outrigger (in upright position) and one strap under the boom stick where it meets the dipper and shackle all three in the middle somewhere where you think the balance point might be. Go in from the side of the trailer attach shackle to bucket and lift then have someone drive the trailer out from under it. This backhoe probably weighs in the 1000 pound range????

 

[Industrial Toys]

It would be funny having everyone that gave you advice, being there to help you.

 

[4570Man]

Does the current owner have a front loader to get it on your trailer?

Or the tractor it came off of. Back on the trailer and disconnect.

 

[Jaylegger]

It would be funny having everyone that gave you advice, being there to help you.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing, wouldn't take that many to carry the darn thing off the trailer.