lets discuss preps for disasters

   / lets discuss preps for disasters #141  
Well, it looks like we'll be closing on our new place further out in the sticks on the 15th. As soon as we get settled, I'll dig and pour a few concrete piers and have a 40' container delivered. Welded to straps in the piers, it should do pretty well in the event of a tornado. It will be set next to the barn and the exterior finished to match. All of the emergency stuff will be stored in there. Weather is my first concern, but WROL...especially with the state of our nation right now ranks second. Our new place is at the top of a hill with a 360* view. One of the many reasons I chose it.

Lots of good info so far guys. Keep 'em coming.

If you're up on a hill, I'd bury dig a dug-out into the side and put the container in there. Better chance if a tornado going over it, than through it. You getting a basement?
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #142  
Lots of good information on here, especially some of the things I had never thought about like bleach and vinegar.

I heard somewhere that the Mormons are really big on keeping food and supplies stored to last at least three months. They sell to the public and you can buy in bulk from them. I have never compared their prices, but think they have a lot of research into this for what works.

https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage?lang=eng

One of the worse things that I think happened to the idea of being prepared was that show on TV about preppers. Every one of them was an end of the world nut job wanting to be rambo during a zombie movie fighting off hordes of invaders. The stupid factor made it impossible to watch for very long, and very disappointing. I was looking for real world ideas to get through natural disasters or at least something reasonable that might happen. Now when you talk about prepping, it's almost like admitting you are afraid of being kidnapped by aliens instead of being responsible in planning ahead to take care of your family and livestock in case something happens.

Its not so much the kidnapping as it is the probing.... :eek: Why do all alien abductions involve probing rather than dissection? Maybe the galaxy police have rules for catch and release? :rolleyes:
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #143  
Surprised nobody has mention good plain old cheap bleach for water treatment. It takes very little bleach to purify a bunch of water. Just get the unscented bleach.

Charcoal is easy to make if one can make a fire. I saw a documentary about a USMC winter survival class where they made charcoal to EAT. :shocked: Charcoal will help settle a stomach if one gets sick and the charcoal can absorb some poisons that have been eaten. Basically, when in survival mode, you might have to east a plant you are unsure about so have some charcoal handy, eat a small amount of the plant, and see what happens. If you start to feel ill, eat charcoal. :licking::licking::licking::laughing::laughing::laughing: <Yuck>

Charcoal can also be used to filter water.

If one has to make a camp and then move on make sure to take charcoal with you. Not only for the previously mentioned reasons, but a few bits of charcoal make it easier to start a fire.

Later,
Dan
Bleach and water purification has been mentioned several times. A couple drops per liter is all it takes. But it won't kill some things, like that gargoillella or whatever that water parasite thing is called. :laughing:
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #144  
Whereas I can remember weathering 4-7 days without power as a kid without any special "preparation" at all. Everyone's dad in the neighborhood was a WWII vet and a snow storm was a pretty minor inconvenience compared to crossing Germany, Italy, or the Pacific.

Yeah, that's a good point. I remember my dad getting us kids all new snow shovels one year.... and we were happy about it! :laughing: That tells you something. When it snowed, we'd run out, shovel the drive ASAP and come back in for a hot breakfast that mom made while we were working. Big disasters were nothing for those dudes! :thumbsup:
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #145  
Awesome thread ... thanks for starting it!!! My wife and i are old school, we know alot about alot and have been for years storing things ... we often laugh about it ... when we are gone the kids are gonna find things and say "WTF was mom and dad expecting the world to end?"

Alot of good things have been brought up ... I personally have alot of weapons and ammo ... I will only trust close family. If the shlt hits the fan the big city folks will take out 50% of themselves before they realize a problem ... then 50% of them will flea to the hills only to have 50% of them not survive the remaining 50% will be cut in half trying to steal ... the numbers will come down ... maybe a good thing? I know I'm weird.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #146  
Its not so much the kidnapping as it is the probing.... :eek: Why do all alien abductions involve probing rather than dissection? Maybe the galaxy police have rules for catch and release? :rolleyes:

 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #147  
Another thing to consider: some have mentioned having water to flush the toilet...that's well and good if you're on a septic system, .

Some septic systems also have a pump to pump up to a higher drain field so they could back up as well with no electricity. Make sure it and the well are on your generator. I have always have had a good old outhouse on my properties just in case. Only takes a backhoe, a couple of 55 gallon drums and a little wood. I still have one from the 1800s standing. People were shorter in those days, you have to crouch down if you wanted to go in.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #148  
Both of my sons-in-law say that if there is a disaster they will go stay with my 90-year old mother. She WILL survive! There are skills and attitudes that the old folks have that we younger ones do not possess.

During the ice storm of 2009 when all were without power for seven to twenty days I learned a lot. First if the outage/disaster/revolution happens in cold weather the best thing you can have to keep the youngsters alive and warm is a bunch of quilts. Blankets are fine but nothing beats a quilt. House can be dark with no generator running and the people inside will be warm in their beds. Second, we keep several cases of bottled water stored in the garage. Third, gasoline and kerosene are precious. Keep your cans full. Fourth, keep your pantry stocked with canned goods and staples.

You will survive.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #149  
Blankets are fine but nothing beats a quilt.

I like 100% wool blankets (WW I,II style, I like the itch)...but IMO nothing beats a couple of real wool afghans for retaining body warmth...
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #150  
I like 100% wool blankets (WW I,II style, I like the itch)...but IMO nothing beats a couple of real wool afghans for retaining body warmth...

I like wool, but the dang moths drive me nuts. I have thrown out more wool than I care to admit.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #151  
Both of my sons-in-law say that if there is a disaster they will go stay with my 90-year old mother. She WILL survive! There are skills and attitudes that the old folks have that we younger ones do not possess.

During the ice storm of 2009 when all were without power for seven to twenty days I learned a lot. First if the outage/disaster/revolution happens in cold weather the best thing you can have to keep the youngsters alive and warm is a bunch of quilts. Blankets are fine but nothing beats a quilt. House can be dark with no generator running and the people inside will be warm in their beds. Second, we keep several cases of bottled water stored in the garage. Third, gasoline and kerosene are precious. Keep your cans full. Fourth, keep your pantry stocked with canned goods and staples.

You will survive.

We went through the same ice storm, and I can honestly say that experiencing a "disaster" in a rural area vs. a city/suburban area would be vastly different.

In the ice storm event, travel was difficult/impossible via vehicle, unless you were carrying a chainsaw and a lot for fuel for the first few days. Of course, the weather improved after just a few days, but still...

I can't improve on what has been offered in terms of advice on prepping, other than offer my own comments. I found one of the biggest issues to be boredom. In the case where weather is unsuitable to be outside, there is a great need for some form of entertainment among the occupants of a dwelling. I think someone has already mentioned books and board games, and I would second that notion.

One other thing I would mention, that I feel goes along with this thread, and I haven't seen yet (I apologize if I have overlooked it) - personal health/physical fitness. Having food and tools is essential, but in a true disaster, the physical toll on your body will likely be greater than normal. Now I'm not saying everyone should try to be a lean, mean, survival machine - after all, a little extra body fat might come in handy! But in general, engaging in routine cardio, aerobics, weight training, etc. and trying to shed the extra pounds will not only make you feel better in day-to-day life, but be handy in difficult times. (I say all of the preceding as a former fat-boy that couldn't run across the living room without taking a break on the ottoman). I am by no means an outstanding physical specimen now, but am much better than I used to be.

Similarly, in this day and age, many disasters (hurricanes, snow storms, etc.) are not surprises, while others (earthquakes, tornadoes) can come from nowhere. It can't hurt to pay attention to the 7-10 day forecast and as forewarned as possible for changes in the weather, so one can make some last-minute preparations for particular disasters.

Good luck and take care.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #152  
Both of my sons-in-law say that if there is a disaster they will go stay with my 90-year old mother. She WILL survive! There are skills and attitudes that the old folks have that we younger ones do not possess.

During the ice storm of 2009 when all were without power for seven to twenty days I learned a lot. First if the outage/disaster/revolution happens in cold weather the best thing you can have to keep the youngsters alive and warm is a bunch of quilts. Blankets are fine but nothing beats a quilt. House can be dark with no generator running and the people inside will be warm in their beds. Second, we keep several cases of bottled water stored in the garage. Third, gasoline and kerosene are precious. Keep your cans full. Fourth, keep your pantry stocked with canned goods and staples.

You will survive.

We went through the same ice storm, and I can honestly say that experiencing a "disaster" in a rural area vs. a city/suburban area would be vastly different.

In the ice storm event, travel was difficult/impossible via vehicle, unless you were carrying a chainsaw and a lot for fuel for the first few days. Of course, the weather improved after just a few days, but still...

I can't improve on what has been offered in terms of advice on prepping, other than offer my own comments. I found one of the biggest issues to be boredom. In the case where weather is unsuitable to be outside, there is a great need for some form of entertainment among the occupants of a dwelling. I think someone has already mentioned books and board games, and I would second that notion.

One other thing I would mention, that I feel goes along with this thread, and I haven't seen yet (I apologize if I have overlooked it) - personal health/physical fitness. Having food and tools is essential, but in a true disaster, the physical toll on your body will likely be greater than normal. Now I'm not saying everyone should try to be a lean, mean, survival machine - after all, a little extra body fat might come in handy! But in general, engaging in routine cardio, aerobics, weight training, etc. and trying to shed the extra pounds will not only make you feel better in day-to-day life, but be handy in difficult times. (I say all of the preceding as a former fat-boy that couldn't run across the living room without taking a break on the ottoman). I am by no means an outstanding physical specimen now, but am much better than I used to be.

Similarly, in this day and age, many disasters (hurricanes, snow storms, etc.) are not surprises, while others (earthquakes, tornadoes) can come from nowhere. It can't hurt to pay attention to the 7-10 day forecast and as forewarned as possible for changes in the weather, so one can make some last-minute preparations for particular disasters.

Good luck and take care.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #153  
What is everyone storing water in for drinking? The plastic used in your normal, everyday 12 oz water bottles from the store has been proven to leach toxins into the water over a period of time. It's especially bad if they are stored in a warm area. I've heard that they can be dangerous to drink after just six months.

As of right now, we are still relying on that bottled water, but have been looking into some sort of glass containers for long term. Also the one gallon plastic containers at the store might be OK, neither of us have looked into those.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #154  
What is everyone storing water in for drinking? The plastic used in your normal, everyday 12 oz water bottles from the store has been proven to leach toxins into the water over a period of time. It's especially bad if they are stored in a warm area. I've heard that they can be dangerous to drink after just six months.

As of right now, we are still relying on that bottled water, but have been looking into some sort of glass containers for long term. Also the one gallon plastic containers at the store might be OK, neither of us have looked into those.

Eh? If your referring to BPA, there are products on the market now that are free of that. Other stuff in plastic? Unsafe? Debatable.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #155  
In addition to the approximately 2300 gallons in the storage tank, we also have a couple 275 gallon totes and about 20 of the gallon jugs from Arozona Iced Tea, which are a very thick plastic jug. I don't really enjoy the tea but love the jug.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #158  
As for radios working after the CME or EMP, yes the vhf repeaters will likely be fried but simplex 2 meters can easily work for 50 miles with proper location and antennas. Also 80 meters with an NVIS antenna is your typical 200 300 mile solution. Try to keep the antennas around 10 foot high or so. Even lower can work but become a nuisance for people accidentally running into them. I have a nice little backup 12 volt radio the FT 450 . the power can easily be adjusted from 5 to 100 watts. And the display can be dimmed or even turned completly off to conserve power. A simple compact all mode hf thru 6 meter rig, yet full featured.
 
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   / lets discuss preps for disasters #159  
What is everyone storing water in for drinking? The plastic used in your normal, everyday 12 oz water bottles from the store has been proven to leach toxins into the water over a period of time. It's especially bad if they are stored in a warm area. I've heard that they can be dangerous to drink after just six months.

As of right now, we are still relying on that bottled water, but have been looking into some sort of glass containers for long term. Also the one gallon plastic containers at the store might be OK, neither of us have looked into those.

Since we have a well, and a way to get water out of it in a power outage, and several cases of water and pop in the basement where its nice and cool, we haven't done anything special. I've heard that 2 liter pop bottles filled with clean water and a couple drops of unscented bleach will keep for a year. So if you have concerns about plastic and leaching, just rotate out the water every 6 months and refill the containers. :thumbsup:
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #160  
A distiller is the best way to have pure drinking water. Also a basement isn't just for tornados. They can be a life saver in a power outage during extreme heat and cold.
 

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