lets discuss preps for disasters

   / lets discuss preps for disasters #521  
I once read a piece by a guy who survived the economic crash in Argentina. He said the one thing that quickly became an issue was sanitation. Put a pallet of T paper in the garage, along with a pallet of water. HS
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #522  
I once read a piece by a guy who survived the economic crash in Argentina. He said the one thing that quickly became an issue was sanitation. Put a pallet of T paper in the garage, along with a pallet of water. HS

Yeah. Someone here on TBN that lives in hurricane country said something about a run (no pun intended) on toilet paper at Walmart after the hurricane went through. Its an important consideration, especially since no one has Sears catalogs or phone books anymore. :p
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #523  
With an energy star chest freezer and a tiny generator, you can keep a freezer cold on a quart of gas a day. 800 watts is plenty to run a freezer. A small lawnmower motor running a GM alternator into a battery with a 1000 watt inverter will run a freezer just fine.

If you try this system, prove it out before you need it. I've got a 1200 watt inverter that will not START the freezer or fridge motor reliably. If it starts, it runs fine, but the current requirement to get things churning is just a bit too much.

High wind and high water have been the only disasters I've lived with. It's hard to protect from those two!
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #524  
Moss; them non functioning freezer's would make good vermin proof storage containers.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #525  
I once read a piece by a guy who survived the economic crash in Argentina. He said the one thing that quickly became an issue was sanitation. Put a pallet of T paper in the garage, along with a pallet of water. HS


144 rolls/box. 10 boxes.

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Spring storage house, two 1500gal tanks full all the time, gravity feeds to the house/etc.

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   / lets discuss preps for disasters #526  
My meter runs backwards most the day...

HS
 

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   / lets discuss preps for disasters #527  
One item that is not that popular in the US but is in many other parts of the world is a bidet. Besides cleanliness, a bidet offers the use of much less toilet paper. You are not wiping away filth, you are only drying the area. Using one of the many portable bidets for sale, or making your own, you can stretch one roll of toilet paper out to a month easily. One model that I have (and that I saw on Doomsday Preppers, to give credit) is the pump up sprayers from the hardware store. You don't need to bend the tip, as the show recommended, but it help. You can use sun-warmed water to clean yourself, then pat dry. To sun-warm, simply wrap the sprayer in black plastic or black duct tape. It will attract the heat of the sun when in a window.

Medication stocking is very important....if you know what to do with them, otherwise, they are extremely dangerous. If you take the wrong antibiotic for an illness, you could in-fact be super-powering that bacteria. But, I do say get a book that describes all of your basic broad-spectrum antibiotics and their uses. You can google them as well, and create your own short-cut book on many facts that you want to keep in one place. Buy large and small bottles of everything. Lg. for home, sm. for bug-out bags. Remember to keep your prescription med supply rotated in your bags as well. I usually tear my bags down twice a year and restock with fresh, and appropriate clothing for those next 6-months. Gatorade and Powerade freeze at a lower temperature than water for us Northern people. Ice doesn't help when walking in a blizzard. Gatorade does.

Add honey to your home and bags as well. Raw honey is the best, but pasteurized if you have a weakened immune system, is safer. Honey does not freeze. It provides energy, though not many nutrients, per say. It will sooth a sore throat, aid in burn and wound healing, but most importantly, helps with a stressful time, because it just tastes so good. Add it to plain crackers, and you end up with something that will keep your own morale up. There is a reason they used to give us chocolate, gum, fudge, etc in our MREs. Have to 'want' to fight to go and fight.

Don't forget about redundancy. Everything you plan for or pack, say to yourself, "what if it fails, or breaks, or battery dies..etc." You can bring a small mat to sleep on if you need to at night, or for the same weight, if you live near any sorts of greens, a small axe and a headlamp, will make you own 'off the cold ground' bed. Two headlamps and/or flashlights take up little room. Two mylar blankets, match kits, or tubes of bacitracin take of little room and weight, but can save your life if the primary is lost or damaged. Dehydrated food is light, and usually tasty, but requires adequate water to re-hydrate properly in your body. Also, some I have found leave a strange film in your mouth, like dehydrated ice creams. not what you want be worrying about while you try to survive. Tasty is a good thing, but try them before you need them.

Redundancy at home is also important. backup your backups. If you have solar, have another panel incase of damage or theft. Or, add wind to supplement the solar. Have two generators. The second doesn't have to be as good as the first if too expensive, but nothing breaks while in storage...just when you need it. If you Faraday cage your electronics, have you thought of your generators? What about your heating furnace boards? Both will need to be protected if a situation that requires a Faraday cage happens.

I hope to die an old silly fool with a bunker full of expiring food and unused generators. But, I will hopefully be ready if not.
 
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#528  
In my definition of a TEOTWAWKI scenario, there won't be any law. The law will be what you say it is. Until society and the rule of law is restored, you will have to do as you see fit. We are not talking about some local or regional disaster here where there is still the rule of law, maybe just not in the area you are in, but a nationwide or even worldwide disaster. TEOTWAWKI

agreed.. if civilazation falls apart worldwide for months or years.. very likely what happens in the time after the fall, and the time when civ finally organizes again.. very likely none of the interim time will count.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #529  
I suspect everyone on this thread knows the term TEOTWAWKI or something similar but just in case you can listen and read along here:

 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #530  
And if you always wondered what the heck Billy Joel was trying to say:

 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #531  
I have a huge box of that institutional single ply, individually wrapped toilet paper. I thought I would use it, but it's just too unpleasant so it will always be around for emergencies.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #532  
/Also Medical supplies would be a must if you have no way to get to proper medical services. Even a basic first aid book and kit would be better than nothing and worth its weight in gold.

I did read where people advised putting back some cash for emergencies. That is a great idea for short term disasters but if it is a much longer disaster. Cash could very well become useless. I believe other things would be more valuable and would be needed to barter with. Of course food would be one but what about ammo? or even medicine?
I joke most of my friends have 10 years of ammo, 10 months of food, 10 days of water, and 10 minutes of medical supplies.

We bought used family medical guides on eBay for home and camp. Had an EMT help us plan medical supplies, and took a Wilderness First Responder training course. "Wilderness Medicine" courses assume you are hours or days away from medical care, more appropriate for sailors and preppers....
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #533  
That's what the backhoe is for. ;)

The county just south of me has repeatedly declined to fund its sheriff's department, so there is no response at all to most crimes. It's also a rural county with a large population of backhoes and other heavy equipment. You hear stories of criminals moving into the county and then quietly disappearing. "Who knows where people like that go? I heard he moved to California."

The new definition of Best Friend is the guy who will loan you his backhoe. In a pinch, there is always Power Rents.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #534  
In times of turmoil, how would you know whether to shoot someone or not? You might have to make that decision very quickly or risk dying yourself. In Canada, you can't use excessive force. You can't kill someone because they are stealing your generator, and yet, if that is your survival tool, I think one would be justified. The courts wouldn't see it that way though. I hope, I never have to experience that.

I think you have to live in or travel in safe groups where each member of the group would protect the others and vice versa. People would have to prove trustworthiness to be trusted. The idea that i would have to kill someone to protect the group would be a tough one.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #536  
The religious paramilitary groups really have the right idea (as far as survival). Failing that, you really don't stand much of a chance against armed bandits. Piss someone off, and next thing you get popped in the head from a thousand feet while pulling carrots in your garden. You will be luckier if you are killed outright.
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #537  
The religious paramilitary groups really have the right idea (as far as survival). Failing that, you really don't stand much of a chance against armed bandits. Piss someone off, and next thing you get popped in the head from a thousand feet while pulling carrots in your garden. You will be luckier if you are killed outright.

Well, I suppose, there are worse ways to go out than pulling carrots....just saying..:)
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #538  
My meter runs backwards most the day... HS

Can you use that setup without grid power? My understanding is that modern inverters that are grid tied, as yours apparently is, will shut down if they do no sense grid power. This is to protect workers if the grid is down. Keeps grid tied solar from back feeding the lines when lineman expect it to be off. In the event of no power panels and inverters that were grid tied would be useless, right?
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #539  
Well, I suppose, there are worse ways to go out than pulling carrots....just saying..:)

Yeah,
Like that scene in the movie Unforgiven, where they shoot the guy in the outhouse. :laughing:
 
   / lets discuss preps for disasters #540  
Don't forget animal traps for food beside a 22 also.
 

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