lets discuss preps for disasters

/ lets discuss preps for disasters
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de Nada- we laughed our butts off watching those jokers- If brains were C-4, not a one of them would have enough brains to blow their noses.

Even funnier [although a little scary too] are some of the more "hardcore" prep fanatics on Y-tube, that say that they were approached by NatGeo but said that they didn't want to be on the show because they didn't want to give away their secrets or location lest they be robbed or the govment come and comfiscate their stuff.

I kid you not!

If they are that secret, why are they on the Y-tube?

PS: At one time on TWC, NatGeo had some "Prepper Tips and Tricks" on-demand, usually something so basic [or otherwise so esoteric] that it would never prove to be helpful for any kind of survival situation.



Someone, I forget who, did one of those prep type shows, camera crew was let into a secret underground ? Clubhouse where they met monthly to plan or whatever. In a box on the shelf were pineapple grenades. ;)
 
/ lets discuss preps for disasters #242  
Quite some time ago this was posted on the web, might even have been on TBN. It's the story of a man who experienced Argentina's economic collapse in 2001 or as he put it...WTSHTF.

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Hey Mace, that's a great read. Thanks for posting. While we can only speculate, this guy has lived it and knows what he's talking about.
Early on I suggested a supply of reading material (for entertainment purposes, not educational as others here have proposed.) Apparently that's old school, as he states that things which sell fastest on the "grey market" are food, clothing, and DVDs.

And for you gold hoarders...
since it is impossible to determine the true mineral percentage of gold, small shops hand dealers will pay for it as regular jewelry gold.

What I would do if I were you: Besides gold coins, buy a lot of small gold rings and other jewelry. They should be less expensive than gold coins, and if the SHTF bad, you'll not be losing money, selling premium quality gold coins for the price of junk gold. If I could travel back in time, I'd buy a small bag worth of gold rings...
 
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I also have the entire Foxfire series, as well as a few on ancient construction, survival books, medical books, emergency surgery, edible plants and I found a link to a massive Armed Services field manuals, in .pdf format and have been downloading them as time permits.

We bought a fully stocked emergency medical backpack and will get the full surgical one as well before long. We have enough literature stockpiled to handle most situations but I am always looking for more. As far as peanut butter, I have opened some that was a couple years past its "best by date" and it was perfectly fine. We do have plenty of heirloom seeds but hope to collect some more.

We will never be fully prepared for everything, and certainly not as set up as well as Andy, but every month that goes by we are one step closer.

Hi SirReal [love that],

Would you be amenable to sharing that link?

PM me if you'd prefer that approach.

Thanks,
Thomas
 
/ lets discuss preps for disasters #246  
Ok, I'll change the tone for a second, because it's something I haven't seen anything about, that affects me, at some others posting here. Kids. I've got a 9 yr old son, a 4 yr old daughter, and a 1 year old daughter. So, the 1 year old (just turned 1 like 3 weeks ago) still needs diapers, wipes, etc for the short (1 or 2 week evens) term. Sure, over the longer range I would be forced to make cloth diapers out of old work shirts, but I would prefer to avoid it for your, what I'll call 1st degree events. All 3 are in good shape and health (HALLAJUEH) but it's something that would make it hard in a more serious event to shelter with others. Helping 1 able bodied person is one thing, a family of 5; that's a much bigger ask.

My son's cub scout pack and I where camping this weekend and we got to talking about this. A good friend and fairly close neighbor has cattle, I've got chickens, another has hogs, others have arms, mechanical skills, ect. What I said was in a true SHTF, people would help each other, but you wouldn't be able to show up empty handed. Neighbor who has nothing to share, and no skills, isn't going to be able to hunker down with me and mine, and expect me to provide for them.

As heartless as it is; the elderly and sick might make it 2 weeks, if it goes on for a month, not many would.

You are right about the ill or frail elderly and the chronically ill- I for one, try to get my SWMBO to order her medications AHEAD of when she runs out so that she can slowly build up some back stock, and I also try to have our MD's order our "as needed" meds as if we always take the highest allowed daily doses for the same reason.

As for the empty handed, they'll babysit, do the bad [or poopy] end of the stick jobs or get sent packing.

One of my favorite [fiction] books is "Lucifer's Hammer" an old comet-strike story by one of my favorite authors- Larry Niven, and in it, there are a lot of useful real world tips given by the way- one of the characters is an old relatively frail scientist, who stocks a bunch of rally useful "how-to" books and uses them to trade his way into a camp where otherwise he might not've.

Then he becomes their Mr. Science/Wizard and helps them defends against the evil hordes.

Good story- smart idea!
Thomas
 
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The fistfights in grocery stores and generator thefts that I've heard of didn't happen in the city, they happened in the 'burbs.

maybe because people in the city don't know how to cook from scratch or what to do with a generator? :D
 
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20,000 watts and you can't run the oven and clothes dryer at the same time? They should only pull 3000-3500 watts each.

I was thinking the same thing. 20k watts is 166 amps at 120v. If that's a limitation, you're doing something way wrong.
 
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Makes you want to be a little better prepared at home and take weather warnings seriously. Get out when they tell you to get out.
 
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I don't know, let me check what happened the last time an entire continent shut down, and see. Oh, wait, it's never happened. So on your list of threats from most likely to least likely is the possibility that a 2,000 mile by 3,000 mile region with 300 million inhabitants is completely immobilized? Because I start with the most likely [here, an intense winter storm with coastal flooding] and work my way down the list.

This hits the nail on the head for me. There's no preparing for a disaster of global or even continental or national scale. There are just too many unknowns.

If you look at disasters of regional scale, the two essential preparations are 1) have good insurance and 2) have what you need socked away to get out of the region and someplace safe. If you were in Louisiana in 2005 when Katrina hit, which would you rather be: the guy holed up on the second floor of his home, boiling dry beans over a camp stove and drinking polluted water through a survival straw, or the guy living in a hotel room in Houston at his insurance company's expense?
 
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20,000 watts and you can't run the oven and clothes dryer at the same time? They should only pull 3000-3500 watts each.
I haven't actually tried. It is a big double oven that pulls more like 6,000 watt, but unless the power went off right before Christmas dinner we wouldn't need both ovens anyway. The 50 gallons electric water heater is probably a bigger concern. There are also lights to factor in.
 
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"We Went into the Mall and Began 'Looting'":

I am trying to think of what I would want in a typical mall worth "looting" if there was a natural disaster. I already have warm clothes. Maybe some good books?
 
/ lets discuss preps for disasters #256  
This hits the nail on the head for me. There's no preparing for a disaster of global or even continental or national scale. There are just too many unknowns.

If you look at disasters of regional scale, the two essential preparations are 1) have good insurance and 2) have what you need socked away to get out of the region and someplace safe. If you were in Louisiana in 2005 when Katrina hit, which would you rather be: the guy holed up on the second floor of his home, boiling dry beans over a camp stove and drinking polluted water through a survival straw, or the guy living in a hotel room in Houston at his insurance company's expense?

They couldn't get out of New Orleans to get to Houston for a week.... and many of them didn't have 2nd floors to hole up on because the house was gone!
 
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I am trying to think of what I would want in a typical mall worth "looting" if there was a natural disaster. I already have warm clothes. Maybe some good books?

Did you even read the letter? They took food, clothing, blankets, medical supplies, drinking liquid, toilet paper, things to help the elderly they were taking care of, etc...
 
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Did you even read the letter? They took food, clothing, blankets, medical supplies, drinking liquid, toilet paper, things to help the elderly they were taking care of, etc...

Chill your aggression? My post says "what I would want".
 
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What I really noticed was the beginning of the letter; where he basically blames everyone else for not getting the people out. It's everyone's own responsibility to get them selves out. Just cause there's an event, he expected someone (the city I guess) to come find everyone and protect them?
 
/ lets discuss preps for disasters
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maybe because people in the city don't know how to cook from scratch or what to do with a generator? :D

also.. living in a vertical concrete jungle may tend to limit your 'scrounge' capability after the fact.

I live in a rural area.. easy to move around at night away from.. well.. anybody/anything. there are junkyards in all directions if you have time to walk.. etc.

In a concrete jungle, harder to get away from people..
 

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