Leak from Hole in front axle

   / Leak from Hole in front axle #81  
You don't know what you have until you lose it. The realization doesn't really set in until you have a hearing test by a audiologist and they give you your results. Your hearing can start degrading in small amounts over a period of time and you won't even notice it. Once you lose any frequency of your hearing you won't ever get it back. No piece of equipment is worth losing my hearing. Think about it and make your own choice. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #82  
We're lalking about tractors here, guys, not jet engines. I never heard of anybody using earplugs for a tractor 'til I got on this forum.
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #83  
<font color=blue>I never heard of anybody using earplugs for a tractor 'til I got on this forum. </font color=blue>

Me neither, Norm. And I suppose that's only part of the reason I'm wearing two hearing aids./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle
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#84  
I hope you are not getting angry at us woosies that use earplugs. I don't think any of us are trying to badger you, just expressing that we care.

As cpicton stated, initial hearing loss can be insidious. As rdbrumfield said, by the time you notice it going, it's way too late.

I lost my hearing as a youngster, through ignorance (firecrackers)...could have been prevented. There are lots of near deaf farmers...my father-in-law is one of them.

Take a few bucks and go have a hearing test. And afterwards, if you still tractor without earplugs, test again in a year or two. Comments not meant to incite or kick a dead horse. I'll shutup now.

OkieG
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #85  
I believe it's not so much the level of noise in our tractors case as it is the duration of time we subject ourselves to it. I've seen a chart somewhere that plotted the decibal level of noise on one axis and the duration of exposure time on the other showing where actual hearing damage would occur.


Jeff
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle
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#86  
Exactly. Loudness and duration are factors.

I'll really shutup this time.

OkieG
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #87  
OkieG,
I've worked construction all my life and never felt I needed ear/hearing protection. I wished I had listened. I lost hearing in one ear due to a tumor, they had to remove the bones in the inner ear that were destroyed by the tumor. Trust me, I value and protect the decreased level of hearing in the good one.
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #88  
My wife was always on my case about wearing the earplugs. Workin' in the shop and she'd come out and check. Out cuttin;' the lawn...here she comes. It's a habit now. I wear 'em. And I'm glad for it, as well as for her gettin' me into the habit. And your note, Inspector, is timely. My eleven year old grandson was just diagnosed with the same problem. In two weeks he gets a new ear drum and the bone replacement.
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle
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#89  
Don't you just hate it when somebody gives you good advice and you ignore it, then it bites you? I do...and I did it.

Djradz told me not once, but twice to check the braze with kerosene. I didn't. I had the time a couple of days ago when the weather was cool and I wasn't going to install the spindle casing and freeze doing it. It was a great idea you gave me, but I figured the braze looked good and I kinda backburnered your suggestion.

The spindle case was installed yesterday. The gearing seems to work great with the little exercise I gave it, but...there is a teensy-weensy leak. It is hard for me to admit being dumb enough to ignore good advice given to me twice. About 2 drops an hour, I figure.

Oh well. Tomorrow is supposed to be in the 60s and I don't have to work...yeaaa! So, I think I can drain the oil. Put a little filter material in the funnel to catch any metal flakes. Then, I can reuse the oil after the leak is fixed. This time around I don't think I need to disassemble the spindle, just drain it, remove it (10 bolts) and braze it with the innards in place. I won't go for pretty, but will leave the braze on the cast. Should work, I hope. Might only take me a couple hours and leave time for a bit more tractor "exercise". /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

OkieG
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #90  
I had the surgery scheduled for bone implants at one time...... silly me went and had a heart attack and now they refuse to do the surgery.
Since the hearing loss is so severe, a "hidden" hearing aid is out of the question, but I wouldn't take a million bucks for the behind the ear one I need. It works great.

Jerry
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle
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#91  
The spindle was removed today and the patch looked great. However, there was a small crack near the patch. It was hard to tell where the crack actually began and ended. I'm sure that's where the leak was coming from. I decided to braze over the whole surface and cover the thin bottom metal. I ground out the crack a bit first. Now the braze margins are over thicker metal, which I hope is less likely to crack.

I reinstalled and it's been sitting for a couple hours now. With previous attempts, oil would be seeping enough to tell within 10 minutes or so. No drips so far this time.
 

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   / Leak from Hole in front axle #92  
On hearing loss and wearing of ear plugs; Go to Radio Shack and buy a noise level meter, about $30, sit on your tractor and run it at the speed and operation, i.e. cutting grass, if the meter is below 85 dba, then you do not have to wear ear plugs if you operate less then 8 hours at a time, if is above 85 dba and close to 90 dba, then hearing loss will occur according to OSHA. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif In industrial applications, at 90 dba and above you need a full blown hearing conservation program with hearing test annually, personal protection plan ( ear plugs), etc. Or you can just wear ear plugs and save $30 for the meter. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Tom
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #93  
I appreciate the advice Okie, however I'm 62 years old, eat white bread, red meat, and on occasion, run with sharp implements.
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle
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#94  
Egad Norm,

You do live on the edge. I hope I can do all those things when I'm 62! That's not too far off by the way. If the sharp implement you mention is a knife or scissors, then I still worry about you. But, if you're talking about a mower deck or boxblade, then you're in pretty good shape. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

OkieG
 
   / Leak from Hole in front axle #95  
OKIEG

George, I have been much amused and more than a little educated following this thread. You do pretty good for a guy that passes gas for a living.

Sounds like you got it whipped if the crack doesn't rear its ugly head again. If it does you might want to drill a "stopper" hole at the end of it and braze her again one more time like deja vu. That cast iron can sure act brittle like glass sometimes.

I resemble the remarks you made about loading the FEL and getting light in the rear, even with a lot of weight on back. I too have been cautioned that the tractor will last longer if I give it a little slack. I have more hydraulics than tractor too. (Kubota L4610HSTC)

I too enjoyed too much fireworks as a lad when anyone who could lay their money on the counter of the Ben Franklin five and dime's counter could buy cherry bombs, M-80's or whatever any day they were open. I learned to make my own. In the USAF I went to the firing range when it was unusual to see anyone wearing ear protection unless it was a couple rounds stuck in your ears. I fired magnum pistols too long one day and came home with everyone sounding like they were talking in a tin can. It got some better but I have had to listen to tinitus ever since.

Hearing loss is insidious and virtually imposible to self diagnose untill way too late to do anything about it. Long exposures to sounds that otherwise would be marginal can sap your hearing over time. Why anyone would think it a point of pride that they would purposely risk (and probably be accumulating) hearing damage is beyone me but I am familiar with the attitude. My mother is going on 86, smokes, and flaunts her age, condition (darned good) and smoking as if it proves that smoking isn't a problem. LIke crossing the street without looking both ways, you may get away with it for years but that doesn't make it smart and one day you'll likely become roadkill. Of course, I am one of the folks that wouldn't play Russian Roulette even if the cylinder held a hundred rounds, reducing your chances of death to "ONLY" 1%. There are folks who think if they only watch arc welding for a little while or don't look directly into the sun for too long it'll be OK.

When I was about 25 (after the tinitus initiating events) I still had hearing that went to about 20,000Hz in one ear and 21,500 in the other. I could hear ultrasonic burglar alarms and bats. Taint so any more but I do hear a variable mix of sounds that aren't there, at times quite distracting.

Enough...

Gary, best of luck to you with your repair, it was enjoyable following the thread.

Patrick
 

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