L3600 GST stuck in 4x4, advice please

[cook96cbra]

My daughter does what big brother does and that's cool. I think they're pretty cool kids. I showed her everything and had her repeat it all to me and show me before she drove it but I didn't realize my son had locked the parking brake...

 

[airbiscuit]

I'll give you $8,000 for it. I heard the parking brake was locked up

 

[cook96cbra]

I'll give you $8,000 for it. I heard the parking brake was locked up

HAHA!

 

[TomSeller]

I am just seeing this thread now after seeing you other post purchase thread. Congrats again !

For those out there with their 4WD bound up, I find raising the front axle off of the ground with your FEL is the best way to relieve the tension between axles. Backing up usually works too, but I find that getting the front off of the ground completely relieves the tension and is faster. Obviously you have to have an FEL to do this.

 

[cook96cbra]

I am just seeing this thread now after seeing you other post purchase thread. Congrats again !

For those out there with their 4WD bound up, I find raising the front axle off of the ground with your FEL is the best way to relieve the tension between axles. Backing up usually works too, but I find that getting the front off of the ground completely relieves the tension and is faster. Obviously you have to have an FEL to do this.

Thank you.

 

[airbiscuit]

I'd like to hear what you think of the Glide Shift Transmission. I've always thought that was a nice design.

 

[cook96cbra]

I'd like to hear what you think of the Glide Shift Transmission. I've always thought that was a nice design.

I really like it. It's great!

 

[Raised on a Deere]

Four wheel drive bound up is a natural situation that arises on all non viscous connected drives. The front axel on 4x4 tractors is geared to a slightly faster ratio so that the front end will pull around in turns. Have someone drive the tractor real slow while you are observing the front wheels on pavement or clear surface where you can see the tread as it leaves the pavement while the wheel is rolling and you will see the scrub or clawing effect. The front is literally trying to drag the rear. On soil, snow, etc this is largely unnoticeable but a necessary part of the design for best steering.

It is a simple matter to disengage the 4wd while driving. While driving, apply the amount of pressure to the 4wd lever you would expect to use to release it, and put the tractor into an increasingly sharp turn. Somewhere in the turn the front wheels will be covering the amount of extra distance they are geared to and the gear train connecting the front to the back will go slack and the 4wd lever will move easily out of engagement. Do this while just rolling along, not while in any kind of hard pull such as while plowing or disking.


I shift into and out of 4wd on the go all the time when mowing when I see ahead I will need 4wd to pull through a bog, or make a turn up a hill or what ever and then as soon as I am through that need I put tractor into a weave and ease out of 4wd and just keep on mowing. It really makes 4wd sing.

I learned this driving my dodge 4wd. Driving on ice, when the road gets clear it would sometimes be impossible to get out of 4wd sitting on side of road. Once I understood the source of the bind to be just the loading of the gears due to fronts not turning at exactly the same as the rears I learned to steer the truck into a turn, literally just weave a bit while applying pressure to the lever and the 4wd would slip out of engagement.

I am somewhat incredulous that a tractor dealer would not know to raise the front wheel, move the tractor backwards and forwards or something such. That would forever scare me away from those guys doing any kind of mechanical work for me. My dad got a screaming deal on a car at the end or world war 2 because of just such a lack of ineptitude on the part of the mechanics at a car dealers.


Hope this helps.

 

[ovrszd]

Four wheel drive bound up is a natural situation that arises on all non viscous connected drives. The front axel on 4x4 tractors is geared to a slightly faster ratio so that the front end will pull around in turns. Have someone drive the tractor real slow while you are observing the front wheels on pavement or clear surface where you can see the tread as it leaves the pavement while the wheel is rolling and you will see the scrub or clawing effect. The front is literally trying to drag the rear. On soil, snow, etc this is largely unnoticeable but a necessary part of the design for best steering.

It is a simple matter to disengage the 4wd while driving. While driving, apply the amount of pressure to the 4wd lever you would expect to use to release it, and put the tractor into an increasingly sharp turn. Somewhere in the turn the front wheels will be covering the amount of extra distance they are geared to and the gear train connecting the front to the back will go slack and the 4wd lever will move easily out of engagement. Do this while just rolling along, not while in any kind of hard pull such as while plowing or disking.


I shift into and out of 4wd on the go all the time when mowing when I see ahead I will need 4wd to pull through a bog, or make a turn up a hill or what ever and then as soon as I am through that need I put tractor into a weave and ease out of 4wd and just keep on mowing. It really makes 4wd sing.

I learned this driving my dodge 4wd. Driving on ice, when the road gets clear it would sometimes be impossible to get out of 4wd sitting on side of road. Once I understood the source of the bind to be just the loading of the gears due to fronts not turning at exactly the same as the rears I learned to steer the truck into a turn, literally just weave a bit while applying pressure to the lever and the 4wd would slip out of engagement.

I am somewhat incredulous that a tractor dealer would not know to raise the front wheel, move the tractor backwards and forwards or something such. That would forever scare me away from those guys doing any kind of mechanical work for me. My dad got a screaming deal on a car at the end or world war 2 because of just such a lack of ineptitude on the part of the mechanics at a car dealers.


Hope this helps.

I don't believe this tractor was "bound up". I believe the 4wd had not been disengaged in a very long time. The sliding gear in the trans uses detent balls to hold it into or out of 4wd. I believe the detent ball had worn itself into a groove that made it appear to be stuck. The OP understood this and to make sure that's what was going on drove it around in the dealer lot long enough trying to disengage that he finally got it loose. As long as it's used as it's supposed to be, i.e., engaged when needed, disengaged when not needed, things should be fine. He did good!!!!

 

[cook96cbra]

Four wheel drive bound up is a natural situation that arises on all non viscous connected drives. The front axel on 4x4 tractors is geared to a slightly faster ratio so that the front end will pull around in turns. Have someone drive the tractor real slow while you are observing the front wheels on pavement or clear surface where you can see the tread as it leaves the pavement while the wheel is rolling and you will see the scrub or clawing effect. The front is literally trying to drag the rear. On soil, snow, etc this is largely unnoticeable but a necessary part of the design for best steering.

It is a simple matter to disengage the 4wd while driving. While driving, apply the amount of pressure to the 4wd lever you would expect to use to release it, and put the tractor into an increasingly sharp turn. Somewhere in the turn the front wheels will be covering the amount of extra distance they are geared to and the gear train connecting the front to the back will go slack and the 4wd lever will move easily out of engagement. Do this while just rolling along, not while in any kind of hard pull such as while plowing or disking.


I shift into and out of 4wd on the go all the time when mowing when I see ahead I will need 4wd to pull through a bog, or make a turn up a hill or what ever and then as soon as I am through that need I put tractor into a weave and ease out of 4wd and just keep on mowing. It really makes 4wd sing.

I learned this driving my dodge 4wd. Driving on ice, when the road gets clear it would sometimes be impossible to get out of 4wd sitting on side of road. Once I understood the source of the bind to be just the loading of the gears due to fronts not turning at exactly the same as the rears I learned to steer the truck into a turn, literally just weave a bit while applying pressure to the lever and the 4wd would slip out of engagement.

I am somewhat incredulous that a tractor dealer would not know to raise the front wheel, move the tractor backwards and forwards or something such. That would forever scare me away from those guys doing any kind of mechanical work for me. My dad got a screaming deal on a car at the end or world war 2 because of just such a lack of ineptitude on the part of the mechanics at a car dealers.


Hope this helps.

Thanks for the help. I already did just that and it popped right out.