KUBOTA WEBSITE UPDATE

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WALT

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FYI: Kubota has updated their website, finally including the L-39. Other models had their formats updated. Enjoy /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

WALT
 
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Thanks for the tip!
 
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That is good to know, especially since I've had my L39 for three weeks now!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks
 
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That is good to know....Especially since my L-39 has been sitting at the dealer for three weeks now waiting for the correct bucket and the front hydraulic valves. At least the tool box, rear work lights and rubber street pads are in.....Dealer said Kubota is "overwhelmed" with orders on a global basis. Apparently they can't make enough engines to fill the tractor orders and the factories run 24x7. He mentioned under his breath that "we're pretty lucky to have the L-39 on site". I'd have to agree.

Went to visit again today...I kicked the tires and jumped on the hoe like a kid....She is a fine piece of equipment! It must have been pretty funny for the old mechanics there to see this fool playing with the controls pretending to be a contruction worker. Let's just say I didn't have my Carhardts on /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Jim, Skypup, I was surprised to see how well the L39 stacks up against the JD 110. The hoe and loader certainly hold their own. The L39 certainly looks smaller but I also think much of it can be attibuted to the smaller diameter tires. It looks like it should serve you well Jim. Did you decide to hang onto your mower? I would give it a shot. Having the GST in the case of mowing is going to be a bonus. The L48 and the JD 110 with the HST have them geared low to the point that they really do a great job as TLB but pretty lousy at mowing. I really like the loader design. It is what I like in a loader as opposed to the curved arm style. I first saw the low knee loaders on the Deere industrial 210 loaders. I've have wondered why it has taken so long.

PS, SkyPup, what about the 3 cylinder diesel, are you convinced that 3 vs 4 cylinder, Kubotas IDI vs DI debate is moot? I for one find the 3 cylinder design on my L3830 to be truely a gem. It has to be one of Kubotas best kept secrets. While there is absolutley nothing wrong with the 4 and 5 cylinder tractors I frequently use, they have nothing on the 3 cylinder in terms of smoothness and most of all, quietness.
 
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Kind of makes me wonder what is up at Kubota with sales forecasting? This is the RTV story of this year? Too much demand and not enough supply? Or just poor conservative estimates again?

Two years in a row now with supply issues.

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Name a manufactuer of anything with quality that has enough supply to meet the demand right out of the gate. Sony Play Station, Cabbage Patch Dolls, Dodge trucks with a Cummins, Toyota Tundra, Pentium 4's, it's the same story. The problem is, it is typically going to be the one time you want it that the product goes through this phase. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Rat, I have no problem with Kubota's IDI design although it is an old one they certainly have refined it to the max. I thought that they would have to go to DI injection to meet Tier II emissions but apparently not. DI has lower hydrocarbon emissions due to the fact that the entire combustion chamber is encased within the piston head and the fuel is burned prior to spraying out far enough to contact any metal (requiring a higher pressure injection pump too.) The older IDI design with the relatively low injection pressure of about 3,000psi results in fuel spray contacting the IDI chamber prior to the flame front consuming it all, result is higher emissions. Also, with the single nozzle hole pintle injector, it drips out fuel more.

I see that Kubota has gone to DI with higher pump pressure on their larger 50+hp engines. Of course it is more costly to get it right with Direct Injection due to more expensive piston design, multihole sac-type DI injectors, and the higher pressure pump. But end result is a more complete burn, with no injector drip, and higher combustion chamber pressure for more torque and power at the same compression ratio or lower.

Modern DI design actually have lower compression ratio to decrease NOx formation (less peak temp during combustion event) also the injection timing is better controlled too for less emissions as well.

I really do like the IDI Kubota three cylinders in my L-3130, the L39 and our ZD-21. They start right up instantly and run exceptionally smoot and are quite powerful for their displacement.

The smallest displacement for Direct Injection diesel engines is about 500cc per cylinder, so these are at thelower limit for a DI design. Reason being is the higher pressure spray must atomize completely prior to contacting the piston, otherwise extremely high temps on piston leads to failure in the long run.
 
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I frequently use a 5 cylinder Kubota DI. Great engine but a bit loud for my tastes, at least as my tastes have been modified by my L3830. Whatever Kubota has done to make the IDI diesel work so well and meet the CARB requirements I don't care, it just works very, very well. It is nothing like my Navistar 7.3L IDI.
 
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Apparently they recently redesigned the entire IDI prechamber and intake valve angle in the head to increase the incoming air charge and velocity to mix the fuel charge more, creating a vortex of air to better atomize the fuel spray. I think it is called their Triple Vortex System or something like that. This must have be adequate to increase the air-fuel mix to decrease emissions enough to meet current Tier II limits. Otherwise, for certain, you would NOT be able to purchase a Kubota in California.....

The reason the DI injection design does not work on smaller displacement engine is that once the individual cylinder size is about 500cc or less, the combustion chamber which is entirely enclosed in the top of the piston becomes too small in diameter to accomodate the fuel spray. Unburned fuel cannot contact the combustion chamber or else it liquifies on the metal surface again and burns real rich creating excessive heat and emissions.
 
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Interesting. My experience echoes what some others have said and that is that the exhaust from the L30's does not have a diesel like odor, in fact, it's kind of indistinguisable. Now my old International, it was a pig when it comes to emissions. It was virtually identical to the smell you get when you dump an entire can of BBQ lighter fluid on the charcol and imediately light it. It was intoxicating when hooking up a 3 pt implement.
 
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Try adding some 2-EHN (2-ethylhexylnitrate) to boost your cetane level (although in California I think you already have 50 cetane ULSD fuel mandated for on-highway use). With the higher cetane more refined fuel that you have compared to the rest of the country, some cetane boost will still raise the cetane level 4 or 5 points and the injection timing will advance a little since the fuel lights off sooner by a couple of crank angle degrees, thereby giving a more complete burn.
 
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Sky,

For God's sake....how do you know all this stuff...I thought you were a molecular biologist, not a diesel engineer /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Rat,

I like the comparsion too. The L39 loader has hundreds of pounds of lift on the 110. After looking at the rig again today, I agree that the wheels and tires are a big part of the size difference. Did you notice the weight though, the 110 weighs in at nearly 1,000lbs more. I really like the size of it and its width...very stable looking, nice and fat and wide, with a 7'2" turning radius. The 110 looks tall and tippy in comparison.

My 3830 is extremely clean burning. Within a couple of minutes of startup I can stand right next to the exhaust (at idle) and breath, no problem without the nasty diesel clouds. I can't believe it sometimes. Like you said, it's hard to even know it's a diesel aside from the rubble. It does seem a little different than the L3830 though....maybe it's the exhaust system.

Not sure what to do about the mower. It wasnt' cheap ( $2,400). It's a real nice HD Woods unit. If it was a rotary cutter, I'd definitely keep it. I just can't see taking the hoe off to mow once a week. But, I will take your advice and keep it just to see how she works with the 39....Afterall, I'm not going to be excavating forever. Maybe I'll just have some guys come to cut the lawn. With the new road project, I'm really not going to have time to do much else. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif


What is a "low knee loader"? Ain't never heard dat termnology befur?
 
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If a "Low Knee" loader was upside down it would have high elbows.

Let the overtones roll..... good thing this is TBN and not ADVrider. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif It is Spring, after all.
 
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RaT - you are spot on about great products in short supply - I'll add one to your list - the Yamaha FJR.
 
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Jim, the TL100 FEL on the L39 is indeed quite capable, maybe more than what you imagine.

This weekend I dug out a huge limerock boulder with the BH and when I went to attempt to scoop it up with the FEL, it was too heavy to lift. However, even with the BH attached, the FEL LIFTED UP THE ENTIRE TRACTOR as high up as you wanted to go!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

This thing is a beast to say the least. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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