Kubota regened again today

[3 Horse Ranch]

I have a New Holland/LS with an HST. I run it like you would any other hydraulic equipment like a bobcat or a mini. Set the RPM above 2000 and run it unless you need more for PTO.

 

[Jimbo16720]

Certainly something to be said for that kind of simplicity Jimbo... unfortunately it is proven that the new systems produce less pollutants so we must all comply or buy pre-emissions tractors. I've had 2 older machines over the last 25 yrs or so.

Lots of them out there yet. For one I like the older better built models. I like the gear drives better than hydros. I have a hydro Bolens and it's an 1987 and no emmissions either.

 

[Jimbo16720]

I've never seen a pre-emissions tractor that burned diesel but didn't smell like it burned diesel. That one is a real keeper.

I wanted a new tractor with a cab. Not a used tractor that was someone's problem before I owned it. I bought a new tractor and with it came DPF. So be it. I haven't had any real issues with mine. It regens at 100% soot level which translates to about 100 hours. I don't smell diesel or see diesel smoke. I don't even know it's any different other than the DEF fluid. If it gives me problems I'll deal with it. But one thing is for sure, it doesn't scare me.

One of the biggest problems with emmissions is they need a computer to work with all the sensors. I own a 1980 vette, last year before a computer, and no sensors. I own a 1987 Bolens tractor, no computer, no sensors. I own the Kubota, no computer, no sensors. When yours starts going bad and have to take it to a dealer to fix you'll notice the difference. Mine are all simply to fix.

 

[Paystar]

On a Branson, there is a muffler you can put right in its place. If you want to sell the tractor, just bolt up the DPF

What models? Maybe I need o start buying Bransons.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

What models? Maybe I need o start buying Bransons.

I believe it's every one of them over 25hp. Any of the pre-2020 models can have their data logger just disconnected and removed. No other mods (after replacing the DPF can). The pre-2020 builds have no way of knowing that the filter and data logger have been taken off.

After 2020, you can still do it, but Branson changed up the system a bit, and disconnecting the data logger will cause some dash cluster stuff to stop working (tach and water temp come to mind). The newer post-2020 models also have a butterfly valve on the exhaust that can be closed to do a "regen" and heat up the DPF cannister to burn off the soot if needed.

 

[WM75Guy]

What models? Maybe I need o start buying Bransons.

My 2019 WM75 doesn't have a DPF. CNH went with DOC so no regens.

 

[tradosaurus]

The nice thing is that the TYM and Bransons have a muffler available to delete the DPF and run like a pre emission diesel. Not possible on the CDI engines.

That would be worth buying those two brands just for that reason.

 

[tradosaurus]

My first and only regen on my L3901 was at about 20 hrs. I had been running it like I had my old tractor (just added RPMS for the job at hand). I talked the regen over with my salesman and he said I should change my habits as far as the RPMS I was running. Since then after warmup I run the engine to at least 2k RPM or higher. I now have just over 51hrs, without a regen since the one @ 20hrs.

Mike

I vote this being reason of long periods between regen. I do the same.

 

[tradosaurus]

You are not running your engine hard enough. If you want to reduce the frequency of your regens, you have to run it at higher rpms. 1500 rpms won't cut it. I understand what you mean about not needing more rpms for the task your working on, but the emissions system needs more rpms to run cleaner and run the filter hotter. The hotter (within reason) your filter gets, the less often it will regen.

I no longer have any concerns on my own system (different design than yours) because mine is completely removed. Now I can operate at whatever rpm I think is required to perform the task at hand, and to hang with all the emissions B.S. You have my sympathy.

Awesome. If they offer a relatively inexpensive emission delete system for my Kubota I will be doing the same. I did it with my 2014 F250 diesel and don't have to worry about regens or plastic DEF bottles.

 

[tradosaurus]

The issue with that is, once you do that, it's yours forever.

WRONG!
So if I sell my deleted emissions tractor to an individual I have to reinstall the ridiculous DPF?

If anything I just increased the value of the tractor by $$$$

 

[hornett22]

I see now. I came from a long line of shuttle shift tractors. This is my first HST tractor . I set the rpms higher 1600 ish and selected a lower gear (range). Tractor worked good like that but I suspect fuel consumption will go up -

WOW!

 

[scootr]

And the list keeps growing.

 

[5030]

6500 hours on my M9 open station and no exhaust related components replacements what so ever...

No emissions stuff at all.

 

[LightningCamaroGuy]

My tractor regens every 100 hours like clockwork. It won't go over 100 hours without a regen. I thought I was going to hate this regen crap, but it's been pretty trouble free for me. I would say I spend more time at idle or lower engine speeds than I do self-regenning at WOT as well. But yeah, about every 100 hours it does a 15-25 minute regen, and then goes another 100 hours before it does another regen. In fact it's never done a regen that wasn't the mandatory 100 hour regen.

 

[Doz]

I'm 33 hours into ownership of the 2018 MX5200 Kubota. She called for 15-20 minutes of 2200 rpms and spewed out a big ole cloud of crap
While I was waiting - I googled how often should the tractor call for regen. And I read every 15-20 hours depending...I was about 30 hours past my last regen.
Question is how often does your tractor regen and what rpm do you run at. I usually run at 1500 rpms because that's all that is needed for the light work I've been doing. BUt I read i'm supposed to be running higher rpms - seems wasteful of fuel and motor service life. What say you TBN ?

So I have ran equipment all my live and our government is out of control with this buy the time they produce the def.and do the regen.and wait till you have to have it burned off at high temperature that doesn’t put any pollution into the air! Make sure to watch the regen can’t shut down the machine while it’s going through the cycle

 

[confederatemule]

One of the many reasons I bought a new 2022 MAHINDRA 5145.

 

[Pecosbill7]

I'm 33 hours into ownership of the 2018 MX5200 Kubota. She called for 15-20 minutes of 2200 rpms and spewed out a big ole cloud of crap
While I was waiting - I googled how often should the tractor call for regen. And I read every 15-20 hours depending...I was about 30 hours past my last regen.
Question is how often does your tractor regen and what rpm do you run at. I usually run at 1500 rpms because that's all that is needed for the light work I've been doing. BUt I read i'm supposed to be running higher rpms - seems wasteful of fuel and motor service life. What say you TBN ?

It’s been so long since I bought a new tractor that I haven’t paid attention to what has been going on with the new ones. I really only had a slight idea of all the changes that have been put in place with the newer models and, i must say, it is enough to make me keep my old smog-crap-free JD 5320 for the rest of my days. Government!

 

[5030]

I no longer have any concerns on my own system (different design than yours) because mine is completely removed.

I never had one on either tractor. Both are T3 interem

 

[brbhan]

I'm 33 hours into ownership of the 2018 MX5200 Kubota. She called for 15-20 minutes of 2200 rpms and spewed out a big ole cloud of crap
While I was waiting - I googled how often should the tractor call for regen. And I read every 15-20 hours depending...I was about 30 hours past my last regen.
Question is how often does your tractor regen and what rpm do you run at. I usually run at 1500 rpms because that's all that is needed for the light work I've been doing. BUt I read i'm supposed to be running higher rpms - seems wasteful of fuel and motor service life. What say you TBN ?

Based on my experience w/Kubota diesels, max rpm is required in field work. I do not have REGEN feature but believe that Irea

I'm 33 hours into ownership of the 2018 MX5200 Kubota. She called for 15-20 minutes of 2200 rpms and spewed out a big ole cloud of crap
While I was waiting - I googled how often should the tractor call for regen. And I read every 15-20 hours depending...I was about 30 hours past my last regen.
Question is how often does your tractor regen and what rpm do you run at. I usually run at 1500 rpms because that's all that is needed for the light work I've been doing. BUt I read i'm supposed to be running higher rpms - seems wasteful of fuel and motor service life. What say you TBN ?

 

[Dpm708]

Have a BX25 about 9 years old and under 100 hrs. When I've had it I run around 1500-1900 rpms. Never heard of "regen". But pretty amusing reading some of the posts.... This is supposed to be for sharing info and fun right?