Kubota Questions

[jwstewar]

I thought I had my mine made up on what tractor I wanted but the Deere video tape finally showed up yesterday and I watched it last night. They said some things in the video that I think <font color=green>Deere</font color=green> might have an edge over <font color=orange>Kubota</font color=orange>. One question is the Live Continous PTO on the Kubota (CSR has kicked in and I can't remember what Deere calls their version/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif, is it true you have to stop/clutch the Kubota to dis/engage the mmm? What about the dry vs. wet disk brakes? Has anyone ever had any problems with the dry brakes on the Kubota getting hot? Of course of the Kubotas I've driven (1800,2200,7500,2910 only at the dealer on flat ground) it seemed that you really didn't have to use the brakes that much (I'm sure on a hill you would though). My experience (though very limited <30 minutes) it seems the HST slows the tractor pretty quick, as a matter of fact if you let off the HST too quick the rear tires would slide in the gravel. Does this hold true in real life situations?

 

[Bird]

Jim, I haven't seen Deere's video, so I can't address that very well, but of course, I'm sure you know to remember that it's a sales pitch. And I also don't know which model Kubota you (or they) are talking about.

<font color=blue>is it true you have to stop/clutch the Kubota to dis/engage the mmm?</font color=blue>

Yes. I guess you could say it's a mechanically engaged clutch instead of hydraulically engaged. Is that good or bad?/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

<font color=blue>Has anyone ever had any problems with the dry brakes on the Kubota getting hot?</font color=blue>

Don't have dry brakes; have wet brakes.

<font color=blue>really didn't have to use the brakes that much</font color=blue>

Just almost never in my case.

<font color=blue>if you let off the HST too quick the rear tires would slide in the gravel. Does this hold true in real life situations?</font color=blue>

Yes.


Bird

 

[jwstewar]

Thanks for the info Bird. I've read so many of your post I almost feel like I know you. I can usually tell by reading a post when it is you. Thanks for the info about remembering it is a sales pitch. A lot of things I did remember and didn't think it would really matter or I thought <font color=orange>orange</font color=orange> did things better even though they claimed they did. This was just 2 things that stuck out in addition to what I've read here about the brakes being on the left vs. on the right with the pedals on the Kubota. With your response and from what I've seen so far I think my decision is still a good one, even though I'm not buying until spring at least. Just trying to do my homework ahead of time.

 

[Jeff396]

I used my B7500 for the first time on a lot that has many slopes. Some of the slopes are quite steep to the point that I had to stick it in 4wd to successfully back up. I very seldom had to use the brake and am astounded as to the stopping power by just letting off the hsd pedal. Now if I could just remember to take off the parking brake every time.

Jeff

2001 B7500HSD, LA302 FEL, 60" mmm, grass catcher

 

[upgw]

Just mowed a little with my BX2200's brake on AGAIN... gad. Is anybody from Kubota listening, we need a brake indicator!!! (other than the transmission whining). I find that if I put the brake on really hard I'm more likely to notice it as soon as I pull out (which I did this time fortunately). Put it only lightly and you'll never notice.

- Patrick W.

 

[Jeff396]

Exactly, I need a BUZZER!!!!

Jeff

 

[fishman]

So true/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

 

[JATO_RaT]

I watched the Deere video tape perhaps 4 times. It was fun to see where the real stuff was and where the obvious was left out. I don't care about live, continuous or other as far as PTO goes, its just not a critical point for me. Having the PTO disengage when you step on the clutch is to me, actually a bonus and prefer it that way. I have tractors with both and can say without a doubt its not an issue. What the video never mentions, rightfully so, is the wonderful HST that Kubota has. I don't know of any Kubotas with "dry brakes". Perhaps you were thinking JD's wet clutch which for a manual transmission is the best way to go. In the end, I bought a L48TL which would be about comparable in size and power of JD's 4700 only with alot more lifting power, more weight, 3ph with alot more lift, higher loader lift, swivel seat and the list goes on. I got it for the same price or perhaps slightly less then my local dealer sells the JD4700. I expect JD will have a whole new setup for the 4X10 then the current ones.

 

[frank_f15]

as for my ans to ur questions , just re- read birds post and fill in my name at bottom..

 

[hayden]

The Grand Ls have a brake indicator. We need Grand Bs I guess.

 

[jwstewar]

I rewatched the video last night and I guess between 2 young kids (20 months and 4 months) screaming to go to bed and my CRS /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif working full swing you are correct in that I was thinking of the clutch and not the brakes. Is this an issue with the HST? I guess I really don't see the clutch being used all that often.

 

[MChalkley]

jwstewar - I never used the clutch on my L4310HST, except to engage/disengage the PTO, and when starting the tractor when it was below 30 degrees. As for the brakes, I almost never used them, either, except for parking, and occasionally when I needed to shift ranges on a hill. Turning brakes are for 2-wheel drive tractors that are poorly designed, as far as I'm concerned. (And yes, I've driven a bunch of them, too. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif) I guess the more diplomatic way to say it is: I've used tractors that would have been useless without turning brakes, but I've never found a situation where a different turning brake design would've been useful on the Kubota. It just didn't need turning brakes. When I first got the Kubota, I worried about it a little, because I'd found them so useful on previous (old) tractors. I soon forgot about it.

As for your initial questions, I third (or is it fourth?) Bird's answers. You will love HST. It's far safer, far more productive, and far easier on the operator than anything else.

MarkC